Top 5 Myths About The Draft Debunked!

[Dems Will Win]

1. We don't have a draft now, but Rangel's bill would create one.

We already have a Selective Service System, which has the names of men 20-26 for the Combat Draft. The draft can be activated through a simple 1-page Trigger Resolution.

2. A draft would be more equitable if there were no student deferments.

True but there would still be medical deferments, which is how most rich and suburban men will avoid conscription. With no medical care for low-income, most cannot create the documentation needed for med deferments. Then are the Champagne Units created for the sons of the rich and powerful, which see no fighting (see Bush TANG). So a draft would still see the rich and suburban get off, and the lower class be conscripted far more.

3. Rangel's bill is the same old draft, like Vietnam.

Wrong. Rangel's bill is a protest bill that even he refuses to vote for BECAUSE IT CHANGES THE LAW TO DRAFT WOMEN FOR THE COMBAT DRAFT. Rangel inserted this "poison pill" into his protest draft act. If you don't understand this difference and the poison pill, go back to Poli Sci 101.
Don't watch what happens to Rangel's bill, watch how the military has run out of men and whether the White House will be FORCED to reinstate the current MALE-ONLY Combat draft. Remember right now there are only 10,000 ready-to-go active Army troops due to the war-shredded state of affairs.

4. It's OK to give the male-only Combat Draft to Bush and Cheney because it is fairer than the volunteer system and stop-lossing the active troops forever.

Wrong for several clear reasons. First of all, something about giving Bushco the right to draft SEVERAL MILLION MEN gives me a bad feeling--like we'd be empowering a new Roman Empire in the hands of a new Nero. Can you say Iranian Occupation? Second, along with the Combat Draft, the Skills Draft and the Medical Draft would AUTOMATICALLY be activated. This means up to 80,000 doctors and medical personnel drafted every year, ages 20-44. And the Skills Draft is much worse, with potentially hundreds of occupations being in shortage. The Pentagon could draft hundreds of thousands of men and women under the age of 35. Again empowering the bad guys and making life miserable. And for what? To chase down a terror gang?

5. National Service should be mandatory, it's a good idea.

Wrong. There are simply too many young people to do this, so it is highly impractical and expensive. It must be volunteer!

If anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. We need to debunk these Top 5 DRAFT Myths ASAP so please remember to Vote this up and keep her K'ed.

[IWantAChange]

1. Excellent - let's see if Olbermann picks up on it anytime soon.

[pnwmom]

2. k & r!

[Beelzebud]

3. So it's good to have to debunk this new meme that "Dems want the draft"?

I don't see how this is good for us. I didn't celebrate on election night because I thought I'd be having to debunk the idea of a draft.

[chefgirl]

9. I'll second that

And I certainly didn't celebrate on Election Day to watch my son get swept up into this bullshit war because Charlie Rangel wants to make a political point.

If they pass this legislation, I will NEVER ever again vote for another Democrat. I knew the Repubs would never vote for this as long as they could be made to take the blame. Never in my life did I dream that a Democrat would do something this stupid, once we finally voted them back into the majority.

Two years ago, when we didnt have the majority, it was a useful ploy. Now that we do, I'm sure there will be a certain number of Dems that will vote for it, which will inspire the Repubs to do everything they can to see it pass, just so they can jam it right up the Dems asses.

STUPID f***ing move.

-chef-

[Dems Will Win]

13. Rangel's bill lost 400-2 because it DRAFTS WOMEN

Watch out for the Bush activation of the current MALE-ONLY draft. This Rangel bill changing the current law will NEVER PASS!

[tomp]

20. this is a dangerous period--

before the new congress sits.

the republicans could use the "dems want a draft meme" to justify coming up with their own version, and pass that draft bill. rangel is fertilizing the field.

this debunking is somewhat enlightening but also unnecessarily complicates the debate.

the issue is: oppose war, oppose the draft in all forms. period.

[lazyriver]

4. k & r...nicely explained n/t

[rocktivity]

5. Skills draft, my donkey

Watch how quickly walking and breathing unassisted becomes a "skill"!

:mad:
rocknation

[Warpy]

6. Excellent debunking job

on all accounts, but you left out the "People will rise up against this government if little Susie and Johnny get drafted to fight Stupid's wars!"

Of course they won't. They'll be just like Vietnam era parents who think a stretch in the army will whip them into shape. I can't tell you how often I heard THAT one, I ran out of fingers and toes by the time I was sixteen.

I think Rangel is a sly old coot who realizes Stupid won't propose a draft if it's a DEMOCRATIC idea. It worked two years ago.

K&R, by the way.

[Dems Will Win]

8. All the stupid parents who declare "they won't take my kid"

should remember that you will be fighting an FBI SWAT team if need be, who will be coming to put your kid on the bus to Fort Whereever.

[Bjornsdotter]

12. Well...

.... as a stupid parent they'll have to go to Sweden to get mine.

Cheers

[Window]

7. K/R

:kick:

[KharmaTrain]

10. Bravo...Thank You

:kick:

Be prepared to be flamed and called names for being so sensible.

[HereSince1628]

11. About #2...it's not just Champagne Units that screw the lower class

Without implying anything about innate ability, it is the lower class that is the most disadvantaged and frequently least prepared to perform well on apptitude tests. The military assigns recruits to training based on both the needs of the military, ability of recruites, and for the better training time left in service after training (you don't get paid to be trained for 24 months during a conscription period).

What socio-economic class do you think get most of those jobs? Society is biased and disadvantages some kids throughout their elementary and secondary schooling and the assignment of recruits just perpetuates that bias.

[TahitiNut]

14. Discussion is fruitless with those who cannot distinguish between 'fact' and 'opinion.'

:puke:

[Strelnikov_]

15. Your Debunk Is Long On Opinion And Short On Fact

You do raise some valid concerns.

[Dems Will Win]

16. kick

[mdmc]

17. Sounds like some rich dude don't want to pull his share

Correct?

[Dems Will Win]

18. More like there is no share to pull

Unless you are talking about keeping the oil we stole.

[Lasthorseman]

19. Questions

Will these new troops have to wait four to six weeks for their "outsourced" equipment to arrive?
Will these new troops be advised of the "adverse" reactions to mandatory vaccinations?
Will the flag of the United States or the new North American Union be on their uniforms?