Are there any Computers fully made in the U.S.A.?

[sarcasmo]

I was doing a google search and couldn't find any. It appears that some or all of the parts are made out of Country.
I am buying my son a laptop for graduation and would like to buy American, but apparently with our great economy this is not possible.
Thanks Corporate America for outsourcing all of our jobs for your shareholders.

[mike_c]

1. most of the world's motherboards are made in the far east...

...for starters, so I don't think so.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

2. Extremely unlikely.

And if you did find one, it'd probably cost $10,000 if not 10x that.

[acmejack]

3. Certainly not with all the components made here.

It is really impossible to do, you can get one perhaps where the pieces are plugged together here but for all practical purposes, the answer is no. We don't make anything here anymore, we are a third world country, by definition. Raw materials exported, finished goods imported.

[mdmc]

4. lol

:kick:

[Prophet 451]

5. Nope

The RAM used in virtually all computers is made predominantly in Asia (mainly Taiwan), often processors and graphics cards too. Optical drives are almost exclusively made in Asia as are hard drives and monitors. You might be able to find a case made in the USA but even that's rare now. At best, you'll find a PC that was assembled by American labour.

[China_cat]

6. Union built computers is as close as you're going to get

and even they admit that they have to use some imported parts.

http://www.unionbuiltpc.com/home.php

[MercutioATC]

7. Since you can't "buy American", look here:

I got my laptop from these guys and they were incredible...great prices, too.

www.1toppc.com


Had my custom-built laptop in a week for a lot less than Dell or Gateway could have built it.

[sarcasmo]

9. Thanks for that link.

[Anakin Skywalker]

8. Some Are Built Here in the U.S. I've Enclosed Links.

I haven't visited lately, but a few years ago, Falcon Northwest http://www.falcon-nw.com/ claimed their computers were built here in the US. Also there's Polywell Computers http://polywell.com/us/index.asp which consistently gets high ranks by PC World magazine.

[Nomad559]

10. The lesser of all evils

Out of all the PC manufactures, who does the least outsourcing?

Having said that, most everything Apple sells Is made In China.

And this Is China
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2COZeCrvpg

:(

[lapfog_1]

11. Actually, within 10 years you just might be able to buy

computers made in the US.

But it won't be made by Americans, or anyone else for that matter.
Most of the fab plant (chips) are almost totally automated now anyway.

[Cobalt-60]

12. maybe you can find a nice Univac

A little bulky to be sure, but those american made tubes will heat you entire neighborhood.
Seriously, if we want American computers we need to re establish production of everything from the printed circuit boards up.

[msongs]

13. the one between your ears? :-) nt

[karlrschneider]

15. LOL! You win this one!

:D

[karlrschneider]

14. There is nothing "fully made" in the USA nor has there been for decades.

Or more probably ever. The bumpers on your dad's 1955 Ford were chrome plated using imported parts or components. No single nation is totally self-sufficient.

[Strelnikov_]

16. So When The Smash Comes And We Are Manufacturing Computers Using Components

mined from landfills, will those be considered to be made in the U.S.A.?

. . .

The following paragraphs are from a report prepared by a British Quasi-Governmental think-tank (and a somewhat interesting piece of science-fiction).

Intelligent Infrastructure Futures - The Scenarios - Towards 2055

http://www.foresight.gov.uk/Previous_Projects/Intelligent_Infrastructure_Systems/Reports_and_Publications/Intelligent_Infrastructure_Futures/the_scenarios_2055.pdf (.pdf warning)


Much of the 20th century infrastructure has been eroded now (much of it was already old in 2005), but that doesn’t mean that communities have retreated to a new mediaeval brutalism. Much of the knowledge of the technology which drove the ‘Great Economy’ of the 20th century is still in people’s heads. If some components are no longer viable (the last chip fabrication plant closed a decade and a half ago), invention has found ways of adapting.

Some of the models already existed: the computer network, with the central server and ‘dumb’ (or simple) terminals used far less energy and generated far less waste than the proliferating personal computer, was well understood in 2005. Short-hop wireless systems have proved to be resilient. Above all, the groups who make communications function are highly valued, and highly incentivised. This is an area of constant innovation. The huge clean microchipmaking plants of the early 21st century have long closed, but there is still a supply of chips, and other technology fragments, from the so-called ‘chip monkeys’, who forage in waste tips for them, stripping cars and toys. It is a lucrative business, if an unhealthy one.


Recycling Technology

It is a commonplace that there is more processing power in a musical birthday card than in the first moonshot in 1968. In a post-consumer world, the technology currently found in cheap consumer items would attain a significant social value. The designers, Usman Haque and Adam Somlai-Fischer, have reported on their use of such technology to build low-tech design and installation prototypes.

They developed a range of sensors and other devices, typically ‘hacked’ from toys and other devices, a process which, they say, required little specialist knowledge. The devices they hacked included remote controlled cars, torches, walkie-talkies, ‘sound-responsive’ cats, and solar-powered garden lights.
Usman Haque and Adam Somlai-Fischer, (2005), Low Tech Sensors and Actuators, lowtech.propositions.org.uk

[IDemo]

17. Even though the components are virtually all manufactured in Asia

you can order the parts from places like Newegg and do the assembly yourself. Educational and fun, plus you can build exactly the system you want. Or, try a mini-itx system if you're feeling especially creative.

[hsher]

18. Perhaps so, but all the tech support now comes from overseas ;)

[low_phreaq]

19. MPC Computers assembles in US and does not outsource tech support

15:46 PM Jun, 26, 2004

SAN FRANCISCO -- A small Idaho-based PC maker has turned the public backlash against outsourcing U.S. jobs into an unusual marketing campaign, urging customers to "Buy MPC, Support America."

MPC Computers, unlike its much larger rivals, keeps all of its 1,000 employees in the United States. The company, owned by private investment firm Gores Technology Group, will turn down the chance to save money by moving staff to low-cost centers in Asia, MPC Chief Executive Michael Adkins said.

<snip>

Adkins concedes that the PC itself could hardly be called an American product -- most of its components are made in Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia or elsewhere. But he said the company's patriotic marketing has won over new customers.

"This didn't start out as a marketing campaign," Adkins said. "There is no question the quality of service that is provided here domestically is a higher-quality level than what is done offshore."

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,64007,00.html

Now that is from a couple years back, and MPC has since been sold to HyperSpace Communications, Inc. but I think they still have the same philosophy, at least going by HyperSpace's investor fact sheet:

Leading service and support model. Tech support is 100% in-sourced with highly-trained US-based employees. Benefits include short hold times, quick turnaround on replacement parts and accurate diagnostics.

http://www.ehyperspace.com/documents/HyperSpace_FactSheet.pdf

Also from MPC's site:

The support. Unlike most of our competitors, we have a full-time, in-house technical support staff. This 100% U.S.-based team has proximity and access to engineers, product designers, and customer service staff, meaning any problem you encounter can be resolved promptly.

http://www.mpccorp.com/common/why_buy/index.html

[BlooInBloo]

20. Nor are there any that have only been touched by white people.

Just in case anyone was wondering :)

[Mr_Spock]

21. it seeps into every thread

bad boo! :}~~

[BlooInBloo]

22. What? What did I do? I didn't do nuthin! (grin)

[Raster]

23. Yes you did and it's nothing to grin about. Racism is ugly, not cute. UGLY!

Your point could have been made that no computers are made with only AMERICANS touching them. The "white people" comment is completely uncalled for. Post that shit somewhere else.

[BlooInBloo]

24. Oh - you're serious - lol! - ok then...

... It's far too common, possibly more common than not, that when white folks express a preference "American" things, they in fact mean "white". For example, being suspicious of someone who "doesn't look American" commonly means "isn't white".

Given the number of racism threads today, and this one appearing out of the blue, apropos of nothing whatsoever, my bringing up the issue is not off-topic in the least.

(grin) (grin) (grin) (grin) (grin) (grin) (grin)

[Raster]

25. When this American makes a comment about American things, I mean just that.

Perhaps I haven't looked long enough for the bottom of the barrel. And your rationalization does nothing to redeem your racist, ugly comment.

[BlooInBloo]

26. Thanks for being such an upstanding individual!