Clinton neighbors shot; woman dies

[kpete]

Clinton neighbors shot; woman dies
By JIM FITZGERALD, Associated Press Writer

CHAPPAQUA, N.Y. — A woman who lives on the same cul-de-sac as former President Clinton died Monday after a mysterious shooting on an isolated road that left her lawyer husband wounded, authorities said.

Sgt. Marc Simmons, a detective, said 55-year-old Peggy Perez-Olivo died about 3 p.m. at a hospital. He said there are still no arrests.

She was shot in the head, and her 58-year-old husband was shot in the abdomen late Saturday, police said.

The couple — he a recently disbarred criminal defense lawyer, she a teacher's assistant — were driving to their Chappaqua home from Manhattan when they were shot, New Castle Town Police said. According to police, the couple was on a desolate part of Route 100 when a car cut in front of their sport utility vehicle and forced them off the road around 11 p.m.

A man with a gun got out and entered the SUV through a back door, and Carlos Perez-Olivo fought with him, police said. They said they had not been able to identify any suspects or determine a motive.

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[JI7]

1. seems like they were targeted

very sad.

[Catherine Vincent]

2. Oh my!

Crime happens no matter where you live.

[lvx35]

3. The motive was probably to spook the Clintons.

Its all about psyche games to the nastiest shits. Killing Clinton would minimize impact, but if they can spook him into compliance...

[txindy]

8. I doubt they can spook him. He's got the Secret Service protecting him.

I can't imagine it had anything to do with the Clintons, but :shrug:

[lvx35]

9. I can imagine it, personally.

You can never underestimate the retardation of the people working the intimidation front for the right wing. Look at Chad Castagana, a moron living in his mothers basement. You think the type who would send white powder to Keith Olberman wouldn't be capable of something as stupid as killing Clinton's neighbors? These people are Morons, it has nothing to do with whether or not Clinton can actually be spooked or is safe.

[creeksneakers2]

4. Give it six hours

and there will be people blaming the Clintons for the shootings.

[Mythsaje]

5. Oh, no...

That's awful.

The attack was bad enough, but the fact that she died makes it worse.

I hope they catch whoever's responsible.

[politicasista]

6. So sad

:(

[mnhtnbb]

7. recently disbarred criminal defense lawyer--look at his client list first

for the perp(s)

[Christian30]

10. "recently disbarred criminal defense lawyer"

I think that says it all. I doubt it had anything to do with the Clintons.

[SoCalDem]

12. The crime-story reader in me tells me perhaps he killed her, and shot himself

in the abdomen..and wants it to look like an attacker.. :shrug:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. Hate to say it but that's my gut reaction too.

Maybe I watch too much Forensic Files. ;)

[badgerpup]

17. That was my first thought too...

...wondering how one would shoot oneself in the abdomen...and then, while bleeding like a stuck pig, go about ditching the gun, removing the...well, never mind.

I liked Forensic Files too when I got a chance to watch it...:shrug:

Is it just me, or have we become suspicious and cynical anymore...

[mrreowwr_kittty]

23. Oh definitely

Have you heard that there's what they call a "CSI effect" on juries now? Apparently people who watch these shows fancy themselves amateur forensic detectives and it's making some murder trials drag on interminably.

But I tell you what, I sure would think twice about murdering someone were I ever inclined! It's amazing what they can turn up with technology now.

[Art_from_Ark]

14. It seems like if his SUV were forced off the road,

there might be some damage to the SUV, including bits of paint from the attacker's car.

[SoCalDem]

15. There's "forced off the road" and then there's FORCED off the road

a "car swerving near you, and scaring you into going off thr road, could be perfectly "innocent" and impossible to prove since there would be no contact..and if it's a remote area, perhaps there was no one to see what happened..

(a convenient story)..

recently disbarred tells me that perhaps there might have been money problems, and depression involved.. Maybe he planned a murder suicide and then chickened out..

[Art_from_Ark]

25. Of course, that scenario begs other questions, such as

1) What is the side of the road like (lots of trees? a ditch? rocks? etc.)

2) Were there any skid marks or other evidence of sudden braking?

3) How fast was the SUV going when it skidded off the road?

"Recently disbarred" could also be a hint that one of his former clients might have been particularly unimpressed with his defense strategy.

[SoCalDem]

26. True, BUT if you are after the lawyer that botched your case

The address of the lawyer was known, and why shoot the wife in the head and just "wound" the lawyer?

I smell fish :)

[Art_from_Ark]

29. Going to the guy's house might be too obvious

Shooting the man's wife could be killing off the only witness (since she possibly would have recognized him if he'd been a client), after assuming that the guy shot in the stomach was already dead. If it were an unprofessional hit, the perp would have wanted to get out of there in a big hurry, no?

Just conjecturin' here :)

[Warpy]

16. I'm struck by the similarity

to a double shooting in Boston in 1989.

[jobycom]

18. I thought of that, too. Still we don't really know, and I'm sure

the police have thought of it. They don't really trust lawyers in the best of circumstances.

[Warpy]

21. I'm willing to do what I did then

(and I got off work right after the "carjacking" supposedly took place and had to wait for a trolley on that very corner)

I'll give it the 72 hours sniff test.

[jobycom]

27. Yeah, that's about how I handle it, too

I just file away all the possibilities, and reject them as each falls apart.

I remember, though, the first time I heard of the Boston shooting, thinking the husband did it. Something about the whole "a black man did it" didn't feel right. Any decent mugger is going to try not to shoot anyone, but if he does shoot someone, it's going to be the man. That's the one who's going to fight him. Seemed wrong.

The part of this that seems wrong is someone forcing them off the road, then only killing one of them. If it's a robbery, why shoot the woman? If it's a professional hit, why leave the man alive as a witness, no matter which one was the target? There's always the chance the killing was a warning to the man, or that they thought he was dead, or that the robbers were amateurs who just panicked and shot indiscriminately and ran.

You're right. Three days, we'll have a good idea.

The saddest part is that I've spent this much time thinking about this and now writing about it, when I could be doing something more important to my life, like, oh, anything! What a loser I am! :rofl:

[Warpy]

31. We knew within 48 hours.

When the Mission Hill community didn't cough up a suspect, we knew the whole thing was bogus.

A black man killing a pregnant white yuppie was the kind of trouble nobody wanted.

[SoCalDem]

22. Exactly.. the pregnant woman shot by her sleazy husband

and then he blamed it on a black mugger..:grr:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

24. Don't forget Susan Smith

Drowning her sons and also blaming it on a Black assailant.

[Ecumenist]

33. That's the first thing that ran through my mind when

I read about this incident. It happened in Boston, if I remember correctly.

[dddem]

34. that's exactly what I thought,

Charles Stuart comes to mind.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

36. That was my first thought too. eom

[Mr_Spock]

19. LMAO!! I can't believe you actually mentioned the Clintons being involved!

Talk about being brainwashed by the RW talking points - as if the Clintons have ever committed a crime that I am aware of!!

What are you thinking?

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. A disabarred attorney.

You don't hear about them too often.

[BreweryYardRat]

20. Hopefully just a freak coincidence.

That or there's an Agent #47 type running around. :scared:

[JudyM]

28. Cheney got in the wrong car. n/t

[ruggerson]

30. Matter of minutes till the rightwingers blame this on the Clintons

You see, Bill was screwing the wife and Hillary had an illegal land deal with the husband, which is why he was disbarred, and the two were really on their way to pick up 8 kilos of cocaine which were being shipped to Chappaqua from the Mena cartel......

[windbreeze]

32. so the question is.....

and the suspicious one at that....is this...were they after HER??? I mean "they" shot her in the head, and him in the abdomen...in other words left him alive to identify them??? or was it a warning to him...we killed your wife...and IF you talk...we kill you...and you should now be convinced we would??? something ain't smellin right here folks...makes the warning bells tingle a bit...
windbreeze

[B Calm]

35. Probably the same people who murdered Vince Foster. Henry Hyde

drove the get away car...