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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:41 AM
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US Presidental Dollars - you have GOT to be kidding me
Has anyone seen these new dollar designs?

http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/

My personal opinion: They look cheap. Really cheap. No "E Pluribus Unum" on the reverse. Couldn't even be bothered to spell out "One Dollar" as on every other dollar coin we've minted. It looks like play money.

Worst of all, it's the same size and weight as a Sacajawea dollar, which means that it's essentially the same size as - a quarter.

To weigh in on these dollars, send your comments here:

Mary Lhotsky, Office of External Relations and Communications, United States Mint
(202) 354-7630
mlhotsky@usmint.treas.gov
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:43 AM
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1. What's worse is that there will be Nixon, Reagan, Bushes
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:35 AM
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19. No Bushes, yet
The requirement is that the president has to be dead for at least 2 years.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:32 AM
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31. I have a Bush coin.
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 09:42 AM by liberaldemocrat7
I also have Bush coin image magnets with this image on it :)



I want to get the Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S Truman, Kennedy dollars.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:43 AM
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2. Republicans are gonna be mad.
There's no Reagan coin.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:47 AM
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20. By 2016
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 08:48 AM by michreject
they will be a Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush the Elder coin.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:43 AM
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3. when they get to bush* 43 they'll just show an ass
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:49 AM
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7. How about an empty suit?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:05 AM
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12. I think it's just dead presidents going on the coins - but
with "w" - does being brain dead count?
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:44 AM
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4. Let me guess, the Nixon dollar will have two faces...
...and the Reagan dollar will have "IOU" instead of e pluribus unum on it, meaning you actually owe a dollar to whomever you give it to.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:45 AM
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5. E Pluribus Unum is on the edge of the coins
As is, "In God We Trust" and the year of the mint.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:44 AM
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38. I know, isn't that cool?
It's a sleeker version of our money. Pretty neat if you ask me.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:48 AM
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6. You know, I'd forgotten that we were still doing the states. What a bust that turned out to be.
I'd like to see special commemorative dimes showing the visages of the Secretaries of Housing and Urban Development.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:51 AM
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8. I don't think it's legal to show the face of a living person on US currency. They'll stop with Nixon
What a charming way to culminate this tribute to our leaders... ending it all with Nixon. Or maybe they're banking on the "hope" that Jerry Ford will be dead by the time they get to him (about nine years from now, since they'll do only four a year).
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:02 AM
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11. Well, won't Reagan have been dead for two years by the time they get to him?
I think a case can be made that he's been dead since 1981 or 82, frankly.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:05 AM
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13. They're doing four per year. That means the Reagan coin will come out in 2017
or 2016 if they only do one Grover Cleveland coin. I'd like to suggest doing two Grover Cleveland coins, but only make them half dollars. Or perhaps make a four dollar coin for FDR. Of course if they do that, then William Henry Harrison should only get a nickle for his 30 days in office.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:15 AM
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17. Two Grover Cleveland dollars are planned
Not half-dollars, sorry. But I like the way you think.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:37 AM
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33. At Least From The Neck Up
I think the evidence is quite clear.
The Professor
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:52 AM
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9. They are the same size and weight for a reason
They are actually the same size and weight as the Susan B. Anthony dollar coin, the reason for this is so that every coin operated machine in the country doesn't have to be replaced as they are all designed to use these specifications.

E Pluribus Unum appears on the edging of the coin, I completely disagree that they look like "play" money. I'm very hopeful that these will finally catch on and we can rid ourselves of the dollar bill altogether. (I'm also a realist and know that Americans are loathe to give it up).
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:00 AM
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10. Damn right I won't give up my dollar bill!!!!!!!!!!!!
You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.

And the thing is practical too............you just try to roll the new-fangled dollar coin up into a roach holder. Good luck with THAT.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:00 AM
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23. I don't know about that, If I had to choose between paper and a real dollar
with 371.25 grains of silver. I think I would take the dollar as it was defined. And it would be worth 11 dollars in paper.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:03 AM
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26. William Jennings Bryan
"You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns. You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold."

Free Silver!

Ahh those were the days.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:24 AM
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29. A h, a Jacksonian Democrat,
but it also were the days of staged war entries

http://www.socialstudieshelp.com/Lesson_60_Notes.htm


but hey, nothing has changed in this field.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:38 AM
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34. The sad truth is: Seldom is History ever new...........n/t
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:44 AM
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39. You're thinking about it the wrong way.
The dollar coin isn't to replace the dollar bill. It's to replace four quarters.

It's a handy way to use vending machines, toll booths, and other places that expect an assload of quarters.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:07 AM
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14. According to the website, it's the same size as the Sacajawea dollar, not the Susan B
"Although the size, weight and metal composition of the new Presidential $1 Coin will be identical to that of the Golden Dollar featuring Sacagawea, there are several unique features that make this new coin very distinctive."
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:12 AM
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15. My letter to the US Mint
Good morning, Mary:

I'm afraid I must register my deep disappointment with the US Mint's decision to produce the Presidential dollar coins that have just been unveiled. Not only are they the same size and weight as the Sacajawea dollar (and thus easily confused with a quarter), but the reverse design is unacceptable. The designers couldn't even be bothered to spell out "ONE DOLLAR," opting instead for "$1." And "E PLURIBUS UNUM" is completely missing from the obverse and reverse.

These dollars look like play money. I don't look forward to using them. Give me the old-fashioned Eisenhower dollar any day - at least it looks and feels like a REAL dollar coin.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:13 AM
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16. I agree that the designs look gauche.....
but I'm actually a big fan of dollar coins, ala Canada and Europe. Once you get used to the fact that some of the change clinking in your pocket is a dollar or a euro or a pound, it's becomes quite cool not to have a wallet stuffed with $1s. And I love the 2 dollar (or pound or euro) coin denominations.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:18 AM
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18. I love dollar coins, too...
...EISENHOWER dollar coins.

I actually like the Sacajawea design, myself, but the coin itself is way too small.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:49 AM
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21. Bush on postage stamp? heeheehee
*** Notice: For the humor-impaired -- this is a joke ****
---------

The U.S. Postal Service created a stamp earlier this year with a picture of President Bush to honor his achievements while in office.

However, it was found that in daily use the stamp was not sticking to envelopes at all. So the President established a blue ribbon commission to determine the reason for such a defect.

After a month's testing, the commission made the following findings:

1. The stamp was found to be in perfect order.

2. There was nothing wrong with the consistency of the applied adhesive.

3. People were just spitting on the wrong side.

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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:14 AM
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28. LOL, except when the M$M reports it. . .
They replace spitting with licking, ew.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:56 AM
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22. They didn't include the word "Liberty"
I can't imagine why. :eyes:
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:59 AM
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40. The website explains why:
"The word 'liberty' does not appear on the presidential $1 coins, as it does on all other circulating coins. Rather, each coin represents this important value by depicting the Statute of Liberty on the reverse."

Presidential $1 Coin Act

Works for me, I guess.

:shrug:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 10:26 AM
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41. Check this out
This is a 1986 proof commemorative of Ellis Island, manufactured at the San Francisco mint:

http://www.us-coin-values-advisor.com.nyud.net:8090/images/Statue-of-Liberty.jpg

I think someone at the US Mint just fell asleep at the switch.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:00 AM
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24. They have to keep them the same size and weight as a Sacajawea,
which is the same size and weight as a Susan B. Anthony. Nobody wants to have to upgrade every vending machine in the nation.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:03 AM
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25. Somebody with some swing must be awful persistant about dollar coins...
If at first you don't succeed, etc...
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:05 AM
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27. They do look cheap, but the move to a dollar coin is terribly overdue.
The treasury keeps wringing its hands, HOPING people will start using them, coming up with gimmicks like this. They need to just say "Fuck it," stop making dollar bills, and only make coins. People will gripe for a year or two but they'll get used to it.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:28 AM
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30. But first, they have to design a dollar that's not the same size as a quarter
Or, if the US Mint insists on that size, they could go wild. Maybe a 5-sided or 12-sided coin, like some UK designs. Or maybe scalloped edges like on some Indian coins.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:37 AM
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32. Too late for that, I'm afraid.
Like other posters noted, changing all the vending machines at this point would be nuts. And I don't think we'd want them to be any bigger - quarters themselves can get pretty bulky if you're carrying more than a few. And any smaller, well then we'd just whine about them being the same size as a nickel. :)

Changing the color to gold was probably the best they could do. Though your idea of n-sided coins or scalloped edges may be a variation they could try, and hopefully wouldn't muck up vending machines.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:39 AM
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35. We'll need them in San Francisco -- parking meters are giving us 5 minutes
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 09:56 AM by Winebrat
for a quarter is some parts of town. You need twelve quarters to park for one hour.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:42 AM
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36. Dude, that ain't right...
:wtf:
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:44 AM
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37. I'd rather they got rid of the penny
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