Jon8503
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:13 AM
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Why is MSNBC/Nora O'Donnell so concerned about how much money Hillary |
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has spent on the election?
I sent them an email and said they might consider focusing on Halliburton and the lost money in Iraq which would better serve the taxpayers than trying to find something on Hillary which is'nt there. Or they could do equal time on their republican friends.
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:14 AM
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1. She's looking for her Chri$tma$ Bonu$ |
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Tue Nov-21-06 12:51 PM
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23. and it's time to move on to tearing down the NEXT Dem target. |
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They've already had a full three year run against Kerry.
The part of the article that bothers me is that Mandy Grunwald is still as close as ever to the Clinton team - she betrayed and her husband betrayed this country by keeping Rove's secret that he outed Plame intentionally back in June 2003.
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:15 AM
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2. Because Nora O'Donnell is nothing but a Puke shill... |
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In case you haven't heard this, her nickname in some DU'ers mind is "Whora". I think it fits her extremely well.
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:23 AM
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I don't like these nicknames we have for some right wing women here. I don't like that people call Ann Coulter "Mann Coulter" and I don't like that they call her "Whora." I think that it is rather sexist.
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Tue Nov-21-06 07:21 PM
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27. Hey Edward, I'm a 53 year old woman and if you want to call me |
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sexist go right ahead. Nora/Whora is what she is....
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:36 AM
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17. Make that vapid, shallow GOP shill eager to repeat Karl's TP |
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(stands for Talking Points... or Toilet Paper, used just once by Turdblossom)
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:18 AM
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3. Most People Are Aware of Halliburton |
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But more stories about Halliburton are always a good thing.
Most people are not aware of how much money Mrs. Clinton threw down the toilet, when she could have, for instance, spent it on those tight races that her boy Carville is yammering about.
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:24 AM
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4. Yeah, you are right Carville did'nt seem concerned that she could |
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have helped other canidates herself. However, I still don't understand Nora O'Donnell and MSNBC's obsession about her and it was her right to spend however she wanted, nothing unethical or illegal, just that she could have helped her party more than she did.
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:29 AM
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5. They are scared poopless that she will win and it will be |
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President Hillary Clinton. Just like Bill. They hated him because he could have destroyed the PLAN. Nora is just a foolish stepford wife.
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:36 AM
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6. That Evil Woman made my morning mad! |
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She sounded so crazy, just so upset about HC,one thing about HC, she drives them crazy!
Let's enjoy the popcorn!
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:00 AM
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10. Her laugh gives me a headache. N/T. |
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:37 AM
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7. The right wing has been spinning Hillary's campaign spending |
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Of course, all their analyses are negative. The favorite seems to be that she did it as an aggressive/semi-hostile gesture toward other Democrats who might be thinking of running, showing them she can blow more money than they can raise. This is pretty consistent with the rightwing's attitude toward her all along. She is consistently portrayed as ambitious and aggressive, two qualities that would probably never be mentioned if she was a man or a Republican.
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:30 AM
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Just brainlessly going along with the MSM agenda ...
Hillary is the dead bang democratic candidate ... No one else should even bother to run ... But, she can't win the general election against whatever republican is annointed ...
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:49 AM
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8. Nora is an angry woman, she has a disposition like |
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our friend Condi. Always angry. She lost me completely after her interview with Cindy Sheehan. She was rude and unforgivably boorish.
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Tue Nov-21-06 10:49 AM
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9. Corporate RW GE owned MSNBC supports rethugs, neocons, right wingers........ |
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and the like. Hilliary will ALWAYS be attacked by THEM, as well as OTHERS!?!?, regardless of what she says or does. Sometimes it is difficult to separate the right wingers from the left wingers, if I didn't KNOW BETTER, I'd say THEY were on the SAME TEAM!!!!
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Tue Nov-21-06 01:12 PM
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24. MSNBC also supports Olbermann. |
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No doubt Olbermann drives the corporate whores crazy. I noticed on election night that Tweety and Joe (the prime suspect in the Florida intern killing) were particularly uncomfortable with Olbermann.
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Tue Nov-21-06 03:41 PM
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25. KO is THEIR attempt to balance the reporting BUT............. |
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the REAL support is blatantly obvious.
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:05 AM
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11. I noticed that story in today's paper and was suspicious |
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and if MSNBC/Nora O'Donnell are making a big deal - than I am even more so.
As if the suggestion is that that makes her weaker - well of course she won - she spent all that money
Instead of stronger look at what a strong candidate she is - she had all that money to spend
:puke:
Oh yeah - and have a women (O'Donnell) out there spewing that shit - so it doesn't look like sexism.
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:09 AM
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12. What's fascinating is that it TOOK that much money to defeat her opponents |
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Tasini (I worked on the campaign) spent $238,000, less than 1/10 of what she spent on the primary. If she was such a sure thing, why dump all that dough? Because she was very worried about the anti-war left rising up against her warmongering, which nearly 20% of Democrats did, and even more would have had Tasini been funded anywhere near what she was. Instead he was silenced, shut out of debates due to his lack of MONEY. In effect her millions were HUSH MONEY to silence the loyal opposition.
Where is the link to this report? I can't find anything on MSNBC.
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:48 AM
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19. We could have hired another staffer with what she spent on FLOWERS |
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:09 AM
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13. No idea, maybe the same reason some obsess |
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on what some actor says during a (supposed) comedy routine and make that the 'issue of the day' when they really, really are speaking of themselves but are to intellectually dishonest to say so?
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:21 AM
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14. I think Hillary wasted a lot of money, too. |
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Not only didn't she have to spend it to get re-elected, but, tactically speaking, she blew it in 2 ways. 1) She could have helped fund marginal Democratic House elections that would have bought her a lot of goodwill in 2008. 2) The donors may be less likely to replenish her coffers if they think their money is being used to pay for flowers and valet parking attendants.
Of course, the RNC corporate media has their own agenda. If Hillary hadn't spent the money, they'd be complaining about how cheap she is.....they can spin anything Hillary in a negative light.
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:39 AM
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18. More like a tactical overspend |
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She spent a lot of money on TV ads that ran on network-owned stations and outlets owned by larger broadcast groups with lots of stations in New York. It's likely that these sizable outlays bought a lot of longterm goodwill (and good press) from the corporate media.
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Tue Nov-21-06 11:55 AM
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Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 12:03 PM by wisteria
Although, I am curious why Clinton, who was expect to win with little effort needed to spend that kind of money in a race she was guaranteed to win. Is she that insecure? Oh, and I wonder how she would handle the people's money if she were to gain the presidency.
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Tue Nov-21-06 12:38 PM
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21. I don't have cable and so your post is the first I saw on this. It's interesting |
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though that last night I was in a discussion about the same subject.
Our local news (Western Montana) a few days ago had a piece on how much Tester and Burns had spent in their races. Burns was somewhere over 6 million and Tester somewhere over 3 million. They mentioned the most expensive race was Sen. Clinton's.
I volunteered in the Tester campaign and one of the staff people had mentioned that Burns had held back about 1.5 million of his war chest, which seems strange since he was in the political fight of his life. The scuttlebutt was that Burns held the money back in case he was indicted for his Abramoff shenanigans and might need the money for legal fees.
Back to the discussion last night.
I wondered why Sen. Clinton, in a safe seat with all the polls showing her to be a shoe in would spend so much of what appears at first glance to be an unnecessary amount of money for her campaign.
Anybody have a theory? I saw one poster mention it maybe was to try to chase competitors out of the 08 primaries. Possibly, but that seems a little speculative. i'm wondering if anybody else has a hypothesis of why Sen. Clinton would spend so much that appears to have been unnecessary campaign expenditures.
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Tue Nov-21-06 12:45 PM
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22. Because they are corporate media whores? |
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Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 12:46 PM by Beelzebud
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Tue Nov-21-06 03:55 PM
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26. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for dirt on the Dems. |
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Any dirt. In retrospect, Senator Clinton did go a bit hog wild in a virtually uncontested election, but is that the most important news of the day?
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