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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:24 PM
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Editor & Publisher absolutely DESTROYS WaPo's Richard Cohen
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003410810

Richard Cohen on Iraq: A 'Sorry' Case

The Washington Post columnist -- who once declared that the U.S. had "no choice" but to invade Iraq, partly for "therapeutic" reasons -- now admits things have gone wrong, and says that soldiers have a right to feel "duped" because of the "exaggerations" that led to war. But, please, don't blame him.

By Greg Mitchell

(November 21, 2006) -- For Richard Cohen, the longtime Washington Post columnist sometimes accused of being a "liberal," being fatally wrong on the Iraq war means never having to say you're sorry.

Today he took the occasion of President Bush's visit to Vietnam to offer his thoughts on the parallels between America's two most disastrous foreign adventures. In doing so, he admits -- as John Kerry might have put it -- that he was for them before he was against them. But here's the twist: He argues that in each case he was right to push for war (even if they turned out badly) -- so don't look for any apology.

This from the man who, on Feb. 6, 2003, after Secretary of State Colin Powell's deeply-flawed testimony in New York, famously wrote: "The evidence he presented to the United Nations -- some of it circumstantial, some of it absolutely bone-chilling in its detail -- had to prove to anyone that Iraq not only hasn't accounted for its weapons of mass destruction but without a doubt still retains them. Only a fool -- or possibly a Frenchman -- could conclude otherwise."

Now consider his statement from today's column on why he backed the Iraq invasion: "In a post-Sept. 11 world, I thought the prudent use of violence could be therapeutic." Ponder that statement as you consider the tens of thousands of lives lost, on all sides, since then.

But the new column is one appalling rationalization after another.

(snip)

It gets worse. Referring to his willing "volunteers," Cohen writes: "If they thought they were going to rid the region of weapons of mass destruction and sever the link between al-Qaeda and Hussein, they now are entitled to feel duped by Bush, Vice President Cheney and others." I love that "others." Who could those unnamed others be? Certain influential pundits who once declared that there was "no choice" but to invade Iraq?

He goes on to say the "exaggerations" that led to war were "particularly repellent. To fool someone into sacrificing his life to battle a chimera is a hideous abuse of the public trust."

Exactly.

...more...

It makes me very happy to see this, given my stated opinion on the man:

An Open Letter to Richard Cohen
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Tuesday 09 May 2006

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906R.shtml
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:42 PM
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1. Maybe we can all get in on that therapeutic use of violence. . .
Richard Cohen willing, of course.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:57 PM
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4. Killing 650,000 Iraqis is "theraputic"?
:puke:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:43 PM
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2. I read his column this morning and noticed there was rationalizations
for his 'pro-war' stance, but no apologies to those of us that he belittled early into this invasion.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:44 PM
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3. disgusted with Cohen
disgusted that he's been a guest on
Al Franken with Al sucking up to him.

Cohen is exemplary of everything wrong with the media.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:06 PM
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5. Now that the hypnotic high of nationalistic group think is wearing off
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 06:06 PM by bluerum
many of these media shills are "apologizing". Their chants are morphing into something like "right war, badly executed", or "bad intelligence".

Prudent use of violence? Therapeutic? What world class fools.

on edit punctuation.


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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:23 PM
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6. Nobody here but us fools and Frenchmen, M. Cohen
Sorry excuse for saying "sorry." But now that all the blood, mayhem, gore, and chaos that we knew was going to come to pass has happened, Richard Cohen finally admits that, yeah, maybe invading Iraq wasn't the greatest idea ever thought up.

For those of us who spent months warning the cognoscenti that this was going to happen, that it was as unavoidable as the sickening thump when someone jumps down onto the subway tracks, we get no consideration for being right, no acknowledgement that the colossal fuck-up was coming our way. Not that I and millions of others were relishing the empty triumph of "I told you so," when so much money would be squandered and so many lives would be wasted; but it would be nice if Mr. Cohen had the integrity to recognize that a lot of people he insulted were right when he was so very wrong.

But that's not something today's bulldogs of the Fourth Estate are taught anymore. Perhaps a fitting punishment would be for Mr. Cohen to follow a hundred casualties from the knock on the door of the next of kin to the arrival of the casket at Dover to the funeral and its aftermath.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:26 PM
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7. I think there needs to be ritual burnings of the Washington Post...
...to remove the stench. I wish somebody had thought to keep 2002-2003 copies of this craprag and a few others, for this purpose, in some big future demo, where we purge our country of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies and the vile smell they are their puppetmasters have created in our capitol city.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:29 PM
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8. Maybe Richard Cohen
should experience a dose of his own therapy.

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AliceWonderland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:35 PM
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9. "In a post-Sept. 11 world, I thought the prudent use of violence could be therapeutic."
I am generally polite, but fuck this bozo.

Ugh.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:46 PM
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10. How did the U.S. MSM
get it so wrong when so many others --- including most countries in the rest of the world got it right? I never for a moment believed there were WMDs and I'm just an interested surfer. And if I had believed that there were I would still have been against attacking Iraq. It was laughable to think Iraq was a danger to America even if it had had the bomb.
I won't comment on the "therapeutic" bit other than to say that it puts him on a par with Barbara Bush. And now his beautiful mind weeps for the dead? Awww.
I am sick and bloody tired of pundits and politicians affecting great disdain and scorn for those crass and ignorant souls who thought oil and corporate plunder might have been a motive for invading Iraq (other than the merely therapeutic benefits). Well silly me. What were the maps in Cheney's office all about? Ask Judicial Watch. It sure DID have plenty to do with energy. Don't these men who get paid to be pundits have access to the same information that is available to us all? How can they be so astoundingly naive? He deserves those angry emails --- every one and more. So it wasn't for the oil and stuff? Does he still sincerely think it was for the noble goal of giving democracy to the Iraqi people? And he thinks WE are deluded?
And what in the hell did Iraq have to do with Bin Laden?
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:34 PM
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16. the stole the 2k election, 911 helped cover it up...iraq distracted from 911
they've been buying time since nov7/00, and the american people pay the bill
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:51 PM
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11. Cohen endorsed Bush as "the less divisive candidate" in 2000. That is all you need to know. n/t
n/t
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:57 PM
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12. Oh and one more thing
Didn't he get around to reading The Programme for A New American Century? It was about dominance not democracy. No noble goal at all just a programme to maintain dominance by military force. Michael Ledeen of the AEI said this: "Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small, crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business."
Well that's "therapy" for you. People who think like that need to be locked up in a padded cell. No wonder America has lost all it's friends. How many Americans have read PNAC? You can bet folks in the rest of the world are familiar with it's aims. America's MEIN KAMPH. (sp?)
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 10:35 PM
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17. Sorry about that
"The Neocon's MEIN KAMPF". Most Americans would be horrified by PNAC. If they knew about it.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:06 PM
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13. Cohen is a dick - everyone at WP hates him. His ego won't fit in many mansions.
And, he is ANYTHING but liberal.
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:14 PM
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14. Yes, don't blame him. He's got a paycheck to defend.
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 07:16 PM by Casablanca
Think of how his political mojo/credibility/readership would be affected if he reversed himself.

Cohen cashed in the long-term politically expedient move (to condemn an immoral and tactically stupid invasion of a nation that didn't attack us) with a short-term politically expedient move (to support "our" tyrants and "our" superior position in the world, while getting payoffs from doing both), and now he's trying to pretend it never happened. It's all par for the course in the realpolitik game, and too damn bad for him.

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:17 PM
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15. A fate worse than death; loss of credibility. Bush, now Cohen...
Boychick needs to ask for our forgiveness and maybe, just maybe, he'll get it. Beating the drum for this war and now look...pathetic.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:34 AM
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18. Hello Will
How far we have fallen since we met at the first DU gathering in D.C. to protest against this war, 5 months before it all began. We ALL knew a sectarian war would occur if our military toppled Saddam's regime. How dare this so-called journalist feign ignorance now when there were millions of us from around the world who protested months before it started. I doubt we would find anything this asshole has written, that would explain the possible pitfalls of an invasion.

I knew the war was lost when it was reported Saddam's conventional weapons sites, monitored by the IAEA, were raided by Iraqis and 320 TONS of plastic explosives were taken. That really had to be an "oh shit" moment for our military leaders and it's interesting there's not a word said today about the ramifications of tons of explosives in the hands of the insurgency and who knows what other blackmarket buyer wanting in on the action. We will see the use of these explosives for the rest of our lives, and I won't be surprised if some of it makes its way here.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:37 AM
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19. So is cohen a "fool"... or a "Frenchman"?
We already know he's a MFing idiot.
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