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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:47 PM
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Second Veteran Dies after being denied care at Spokane VA
The Anger inside me is best I do not Comment! I will just say this the Republican Budget cuts are killing veterans. Larry Scott has the first and second story with comments on this Murder.

http://www.vawatchdog.org
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:54 PM
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1. Kicked & recommended. n/t
:kick:
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 PM
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2. I hope we already have hearings planned on this
And subpoenas ready to be issued.

I see no reason hospital administrators should not face jail time when people are denied service in violation of COBRA and they die.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:00 PM
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3. Go away and call me in the morning.
Sickening and inexcusable and there is absolutely no excuse for this. If we can give tax cuts to multi-millionaires, we can keep our promises to our veterans. Period.

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:08 PM
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4. The Veterans are afraid that they are going to have to foot the bill.
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 09:09 PM by acmejack
The VA has a totally fucked up policy for Emergency Room Visits. A lot of places don't even have VA Emergency Room Facilities around the clock, even cities like Austin.An investigation would reveal that many, many Veterans have died unnecessarily because of this asinine policy.

edit for clarity
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:14 PM
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5. Last time we ran the numbers of deaths
Veterans since 2000 are about 25,000 some are old age. Others cannot be explained. You are right fear of the bills scare low-income veterans. Hell with 196,000 homeless veterans we won't ever know the numbers that Buyer, Craig and Bush have killed. And Sec. Nicholson claims the VA is just fine. Ya Right
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 11:25 PM
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6. Good Night sorry I was so pissed off tonight
But these are my brother dying for budget cuts.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 11:26 PM
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7. This has been getting worse over the last six years...I blame
* and his cabal for cutting funds...

The article says that the VA staff thought it would take too long to get equipment out to him....why the hell didn't they take him inside where the equipment was? This is a crime.....negligence at best....someone should be prosecuted for this Veterans death...

Thanks MonkeyMan for keeping us informed...
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 11:41 PM
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8. Horrible-k&r
:grr:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:07 AM
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9. The way our veterans are treated is disgusting.
They fight for us (regardless of whether one thinks war is justified or not), and then they come home to this kind of crap. :grr:
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 02:49 AM
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10. If people could see that this is happening everywhere, to veterans and
non-veterans alike, to people with disabilities and chronic illnesses, to people unable to come up with a co-pay or cover a donut hole, maybe they would realize that Bush's tax refunds equal euthanasia by neglect. What could be a greater admission of total failure of the health care system for everyone save the well-insured and wealthy than the VA's effort to enable vets to buy $4.00 prescriptions at Wal-Mart? Invest in the health of all Americans, especially the chronically ill, and we will save billions of dollars and many precious lives. The big focus and push to "contain" health care costs benefits corporations, insurance companies, and stockholders by targeting selected corrupt businesses that bilk reimbursement dollars from the government - but not the corrupt businesses that are also Republican donors.

The solution is simple: Fund comprehensive health care for all in the US, and fine or eliminate those businesses that exist solely to collect dollars that should be going to health care providers with integrity. While people suffer and die needlessly, Republican extremists are still trying to portray all health care expenditures as the trillion dollar baby that needs to be drowned in the bathtub. Newt Gingrich will run for President in 2008 based on his "health care" solutions. Other Republicans will wail and rail about the outrageous cost of health care, and suggest cutting spending as a generic solution to fix America. Rich and well connected people won't die - we will. And it will be sooner rather than later.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:41 PM
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18. Agreed
Excellent post
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 03:08 AM
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11. K&R for the late night folks here (nt)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 03:14 AM
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12. Kick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and R'd
:kick:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 04:01 AM
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13. Thanks, question though - where the hell did your DU handle come from ;) (nt)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 05:18 AM
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15. Aloha...name is a bastard made up ame
Opihi is a limpet shell...edible type...

Moi moi should be moe moe...to sleep.

Moi is a fish, ploydactulus sexfilis...Pacific threadfin... I once farmed this fish in captivity...aquaculture

the names implies the SLEEPING OPIHI
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 04:31 AM
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14. Something from A. Lincoln comes to mind.
"...that we keep faith with those who (served and) died..."

But that's *so* November 4th or so, 2000.

Soldier's daughter whose father was dumped from a VA hospital and died a few days later. He was 87. I felt he decided to check out at that point.

He took me to Bastogne, and he took me to the Peace Palace at The Hague when I was 14. Rest in peace, my soldier father who art in Heaven!

And peace to all who have served our country, and to those in harm's way now. We must bring them home to a country that cares!
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:57 AM
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16. Shameful - that's the word for this entire misAdministration - everything
they've touched has turned to shit. So they go on mouthing BS about how they "support the troops" but deny them weapons, armor and healthcare. I'd like to round up the whole bunch and drop them in the middle of the Green Zone where they can be outfitted and pushed out the damn gate.

We should never elect men and women who will vote on war and Veteran's issues again if they haven't been in the situation themselves.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:14 AM
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17. kick and recommend
:kick:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:44 PM
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19. Who supports the troops now?
If they had no intention of caring for those who sacrificed themselves for us, they should have killed them on the battlefield, which may have been their intention in undermanning and underequipping our soldiers in Iraq.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:18 PM
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20. The Can'ts support the troops like Mr Big supports his heavies, cep
they're meaner than Mr Big, in spirit and in act, and the troops are their victims, as much as the Iraqis.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:22 PM
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21. Despicable
So this is how we "support our troops"?? May God forgive us.
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Bruce McAuley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 03:18 PM
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22. I go to the Spokane VA for my health care.
Actually, I go there as little as possible, since I live 120 miles away.
We are served by the VA Mobile Clinic, which is a bus that comes here to our little town in Eastern Washington once a month.
If I had an emergency, I'm not sure what the procedure is, especially since we WERE notified they were closing the ER there.
Strange they just finished the new ER 1 year ago and now haven't the money to run it, but I've been expecting to get "kicked out" of the system ever since Bush became president, since I'm not a "lifer", but just an ordinary vet who uses the VA for health care because I can't afford it anywhere else.
To me, it's just another screw job by Bush, one I actually expected to come sooner than this.
Cheap bastard Republicans anyway.

Bruce
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 03:29 PM
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23. Wow you guys are something
With people like you. I think this will never happen again. You took some of the anger away thank you
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