Who the hell hates Freedom? Seriously?

[uppityperson]

Did a quick check of the whitehouse website, just to get riled up, and found this little gem, taken from a speech Mr.bush gave at Hickman AFB in Hawaii. Why do people keep saying this sort of crap?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/11/20061121.html
"You serve at a time when we witness an ideological struggle between those who love freedom and those who hate freedom. And the outcome of this struggle will determine how your children and grandchildren live. And I'm determined, like you are determined, that freedom prevails."

I mean seriously. WHO the heck hates freedom? I mean people don't want others to be free to have good lives since that way they can't make as much money off them, but the people fighting his policies are the common people who WANT freedom.

Maybe he means freedom to oppress everyone else so I can make a buck?

end of rant.

[mcctatas]

1. Methinks he doth protest too much...

if anyone hates freedom it's the neocon boy emporer...Seriously, do you have to have your irony bone removed to be a member of this administration? :banghead:

[951-Riverside]

2. Ex-Felons. n/t

:D

[uppityperson]

3. maybe repeating criminals doing stupid things to get caught & return to jail?

war against repeaters!

[Swamp Rat]

4. George W. Bush

[wickerwoman]

5. I hate freedom.

George Bush's freedom to run this country into the ground and have his ass covered by his father's smarmy, corrupt, incompetent friends.

[uppityperson]

6. Yes, I guess "freedom" is too undefined, too many definitions.

Again, he uses language that makes people assume he is saying 1 thing and is really saying another. I will be so glad to be rid of him.

[Vexatious Ape]

7. Christian and Muslim Fundies.

[hfojvt]

8. I do

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose.

You realize he is talking about Islamic fundamentalists who hate our freedom - things like short skirts and skimpy tops on women, not only on the TV, but at the grocery store.

Some PETA-types also hate the freedom of others to wear fur or drive hummers.

Some non-smokers hate the freedom of others to blow smoke in their face and throw butts all over the place.

Some DUers hate my freedom to run stop signs on my bicycle when there is no oncoming traffic.

Most people probably hate some freedom, even past where your freedom ends where my rights begin. They will see some behaviour and think - TOBAL - There Oughta Be A Law!

[uppityperson]

9. so wtf is he talking about?

or is it just pretty sounding words for people to assume he means what they want it to mean?

Edited to add, gripe gripe gripe from me. this "freedom" bs really pisses me off.

[Vexatious Ape]

11. The chimp is talking about Muslim terrorist fundies.

The ones he likes to call "Islamofascists". He cares not a wit about Christian fascists here in this country, he uses them.

[uppityperson]

12. so are they the ones who hate freedom? What freedom, whose freedom?

Do they not want to be free to have healthy lives? Or perhaps he is meaning they want the freedom to control other people's freedoms?

[hfojvt]

15. The muslim does not want to be free

Islam means 'surrender'. Surrender to the will, the rule of Allah. Yet, like in Christianity, that surrender is considered the ultimate freedom.

It is our freedom that Bush says they hate. We, after all, are 'the land of the free'. This is the Bush answer for 'why did they attack us on 9/11?' His very simplistic answer - they hate us for our freedom.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

10. I don't like my freedoms

unless they are served in a big bowl covered in kool-aid.

:evilgrin: :kick: :spray:

[Vulture]

13. Most people are not keen on freedom

Though most will offer it as a platitude. People on the right AND left want to restrict (usually different) freedoms for various reasons, many well intentioned but most ill-founded. Real libertarians are a small minority in any population. The desire to control the actions of others, invariably for a reason someone feels is justified on some basis, is essentially a part of human nature.

A lot of people say they want freedom, but the vast majority of people will eagerly act to restrict the freedoms of others when it suits them with nary a second thought. It is by its nature political, but it is not partisan.

[LittleClarkie]

14. It's a bumpersticker. It sounds good until you think about it

and they hope their base never does.

[lapfog_1]

16. Fascists and theocracies of all stripes don't believe

in freedom (they don't hate it, they just don't believe in it).

They believe that to preserve an orderly society, they must proscribe freedom... i.e. they know what's best for you and you should conform for your own benefit.

I would not want to live in a theocracy... like Iran, or under the Taliban. Or the evangelical rule that Bush seems to want to promote.