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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:01 AM
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OT: Greenbrowser. I finally found a browser that does not take up so much memory.
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 11:04 AM by liberaldemocrat7
Good bye Firefox and even Internet Explorer 7. I went to major geeks and found Green browser. I have run this browser for hours and it only takes up 260 million bytes. You might laugh at 260 million bytes but Firefox took up 700 million to 1 gigabyte, of my machine that has 1 1/2 gigabytes of memory.

So taking up only 260 million bytes after running Green browser for hours makes this browser my choice ffor now.

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:04 AM
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1. link?
how functional is it? Any compatibility problems?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:08 AM
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2. Firefox = 46MB on my machine
It sounds like you have some serious memory issues there..
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:11 AM
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4. FF just under 35MB here
I would guess that additional plugins might be the difference?
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:14 AM
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9. How many open tabs?

I have 5 open tabs 112MB of RAM being used. It has been on and running for about a week.

I have a few add-ons. Maybe they are causing this?
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:20 AM
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14. I have 5 tabs open (two are youtube)
and I am currently at 51.2 MB

sP
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:38 AM
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18. I have 19 tabs open.
ON Firefox it took up over 500 megabytes and made the way to a gigabyte. However with 19 tabs it only takes up 260 million bytes.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:55 PM
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25. Try Opera with "Turbo Mode" off
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 01:58 PM by bananas
What seems to cause this is that firefox converts every image in every tab to a bitmap and locks it down in its memory cache, expanding the cache size to accomodate.

Opera only locks down the bitmaps for the currently selected tab, so in it's default mode it will use much less memory than firefox.

You can tell opera not to lock down the bitmaps at all - this is great for webpages that have tons of images on them, although it can slow down scrolling slightly. To do this, turn "Turbo Mode" off.

Go to the url "opera:config" (type it into the address bar),
click "User Prefs",
scroll down to "Turbo Mode",
and clear the check box.





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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:26 AM
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30. I will stay with Greenbrowser for now. I have 50 tabs open: 300 megabytes.
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 12:33 AM by liberaldemocrat7
That looks good. I have 50 tabs open and have 300 megabytes. I will watch this browser and see how much memory it takes over the next 24 hours.

I will keep Firefox on my hard drive waiting for the day that the makers of Firefox fix it. So far Greenbrowser looks like the browser that can handle 50 tabs without breaking a sweat.

I recommend other people test it out.

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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:54 AM
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22. How do you find out how much memory it uses?
thanks
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:04 PM
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23. That depends on what box you are using.
Most(all) modern PC's have a tiny little "system monitor"
script (I hesitate to call it a PROGRAM) that
will display your CPU activity/RAM usage in a
little window, expressed as a some sort of
constantly updated graphic chart.

If you are on a 700mhz G4-chip iMac running
Mac OS 10.2.8, like I am, I can tell you how to
view that.
If not, then you need to ask someone who actually
has some GENERAL knowledge of modern PCs.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 02:21 PM
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28. I've seen that but forgot how to turn it on. (generic PC)
I'll keep poking around, thanks!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:54 PM
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24. If you're using Windows XP
Check the Task Manager, either with a 'Control-Alt-Delete' or by right-clicking the taskbar and choosing Task Manager, then clicking on 'Processes'. "Mem Usage" will be displayed on the right side of the window for each program currently running. One thousand k (kilobytes) equals 1 megabyte.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 02:20 PM
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27. Oh, me dummy...should have remembered that...THANKS
54 meg on my Firefox
:D
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:09 AM
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3. i must be doing something hideously wrong
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 11:16 AM by ProdigalJunkMail
my firefox browser has been up and running since about 5:30 this morning...downloading, browsing and reading email and my current memory usage is about 31 THOUSAND kbytes...about 100 times less than yours...odd. Are you talking about disk space?

sP

onedit: stupid math
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:13 AM
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5. I'm with you prodigal...that 1gb number is INSANE
It can't be right. I don't how the memory is allocated, assuming it's windows, but on the Mac, if I have nothing else running, it just gives Firefox however much memory it needs. I can set the amount it uses as a percentage of total available, but there really isn't a need. Either way, I just don't see how firefox could by using that much ram. Or even HD space...it's not that big a program.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:14 AM
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8. the only thing I can think of
is that we are talking about the amount of cached stuff on the drive. That is the only thing that makes sense...

sP
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 02:39 PM
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29. It is insane, but it's correct
I love Firefox, but it can and will take up a huge amount of memory if left open for long periods and/or you have multiple tabs open. I am not really doing anything special right now, and my firefox is consuming 550 Megs of my RAM. Firefox has had this memory leak for the last 3 versions, and it is it's biggest complaint among users.

Apparently the problem is that for some types of files it assigns memory, then NEVER releases it, even after the tab is closed. This causes memory used to accrete over time to sometimes ridiculous levels.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:13 AM
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6. I'm running Shiira and it is using 39.2 with three tabs open.
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 11:16 AM by alfredo
It is an alternative to the Safari Browser.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:14 AM
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7. Well, it downloaded and installed quickly
it runs DU fine, seems to have tabbed browsing, is quick.

I like Firefox just fine, though, so I might use this on occassion. I miss spell chcek.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:15 AM
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10. Yeah dude, there is something definitely wrong with your configuration
I polled my machines and Firefox is running from 38M - 70M depending on plug-ins, scripts, and OS. The XP machines are all on the high end while the 2K machines are better. You mentioned IE 7.1 (a patch already?), and that's where I would look first. I assume you have already checked spyware, adware, and virus'.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:17 AM
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12. maybe a memory leak?
that could do it I suppose but I don't recall one of those lately...

sP
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:32 AM
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16. M$ has never fixed this perennial defect, in their inimical fashion they
declare it fixed and change the name. Remember OLE? Didn't work for shit, they renamed in COM, still didn't work, now it's DCOM, still a piece of shit that can bring the most awesome hardware to its knees, not to mention the security nightmare that comes along with it.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:35 AM
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17. please STOP STOP...
DCOM...the bane of my existence. now my head hurts...

thanks, :sarcasm:


sp :)
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:15 AM
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11. Firefox --- only 9.4MB on my MAC. nt
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:18 AM
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13. The FF process takes up 53 Kb (53, 000 bytes) on my machine.
I am running FF v2.0 - very nice.

I think FF 2.0 was a pre-emptive strike on the "new" feature provided in IE 7 - :tinfoilhat:

Glad to see the Mozilla folks are being competitive and trying to stomp out that POS that is IE.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:39 AM
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19. Yet another problem that we wouldn't have if Gore had fought.
the re:puke: coup and the resulting pass for all things criminal where corporate amerika is concerned, killed the unbinding of IE in their OS.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:27 AM
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15. How do you get rid of the damn green G that floats
over everything? I have no desire to have to search around to figure out how to turn it off.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:42 AM
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20. ok...interesting
after opening 10 tabs and getting up to 140MB RAM use, I closed all but one tab and Firefox is STILL using over 115MB. So, apparently once used, always used as the memory is not efficiently released.

sp
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:42 AM
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21. More about Greenbrowser
Format: Software
Size: 1,029KB

Overview: GreenBrowser is a multiple windows browser based on IE with other powerful features. Such as Quick Key, Collector, Mouse Gesture, Mouse Drag, Ad Filter, Search Engine, Page Back Color, Toolbar Skin, Proxy, Tab Bar, Auto Scroll, Auto Save, Auto Fill Form, Start Mode, Auto Hide Bar, Mouse Drag Drop. Version 3.5.0906 may include unspecified updates, enhancements, or bug fixes.

Source: MoreQuick
Date: Sep 2006
Version: 3.5.0906
System Requirements: Windows 95/98/Me/NT/2000/XP/2003 Server
License: Free
Screen Shot
Downloads: 65

http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&tags=Mice&docid=241162



Also:

GreenBrowser is a free open source web browser based on IE's core. Its goal is to help people surf Internet faster, more securely and efficiently. Its highlight features include optimized browsing engine, integrated search toolbar, smart pop-up filter..
http://sourceforge.net/projects/greenbrowser/



GreenBrowser
tabbed web browser

Our Rating: 4 stars (Very Good)

GreenBrowser is yet another IE based browser that offers tabbed, multi-page browsing and many additional features including grouped pages, ad filtering, search engine integration, privacy cleaner, form filler and much more. The interface is clean and uses many of the standard IE icons, so it should look familiar for most of it. Additional features include download monitor, link lister, proxy settings, popup filter, auto-scrolling and extend support for mouse gestures.


<snip>

User Reviews
GreenBrowser

Pretty good, but better alternatives quote

* Interface: 4
* Features: 3
* Ease of use: 3
* Value: 4
* Overall: 3

I tried GB and was impressed at first. Two of its strengths are its interface and small download size. However, after using it for a few days, I noticed a serious problem - GB tended to freeze. If you are looking for a stable browser, I think Avant and Maxthon are better alternatives at this time.

<snip>

Good buuutttt.......... quote

* Interface: 3
* Features: 4
* Ease of use: 4
* Value: 5
* Overall: 4

I have used Green Browser for years. Liked it so well I bought a copy...which really has been a great deal as I have gotten all upgrades for free. I know that it can also be had for free but I have always felt the that we all need to eat, at least every once in awhile. I'm not very big on Firefox/opera, I know that IE has security problems but most IE shells if you do a bit of work can address that problem. I recently changed to AM Browser (Crazy Browsers) of which I used to use Until I found GB. My big beef with GB at the moment is the popup blocker. Some sites I visit popup completely different web sites which GB has had problems with. I can add them to a list but it's not caught until the page loads which sometimes is a bummer. Also it seems that with every new release the browser keeps getting larger not that it's all that large (817KB), AM Browser comes in at 673KB, stops popups cold and IE's problems can be addresses.

<snip>

Good buuutttt.......... quote

* Interface: 3
* Features: 4
* Ease of use: 4
* Value: 5
* Overall: 4

I have used Green Browser for years. Liked it so well I bought a copy...which really has been a great deal as I have gotten all upgrades for free. I know that it can also be had for free but I have always felt the that we all need to eat, at least every once in awhile. I'm not very big on Firefox/opera, I know that IE has security problems but most IE shells if you do a bit of work can address that problem. I recently changed to AM Browser (Crazy Browsers) of which I used to use Until I found GB. My big beef with GB at the moment is the popup blocker. Some sites I visit popup completely different web sites which GB has had problems with. I can add them to a list but it's not caught until the page loads which sometimes is a bummer. Also it seems that with every new release the browser keeps getting larger not that it's all that large (817KB), AM Browser comes in at 673KB, stops popups cold and IE's problems can be addresses.

More:
http://www.snapfiles.com/opinions/GreenBrowser/GreenBrowser.html
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 02:12 PM
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26. Greenbrowser is an IE shell app, not a stand alone browser like FF or Opera. n/t
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