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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:02 PM
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Savage: Michael Richards' "tirade" demonstrates "what liberalism really is"
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 07:10 PM by deadparrot
On the November 20 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage asserted that a racist "tirade" delivered at a Hollywood comedy club by actor Michael Richards, best known for playing Cosmo Kramer on the TV show Seinfeld, represents "what the subtext of liberalism really is." He added: "Under the surface, if you got them in a room alone, I guarantee you they'd say this same kind of hateful things about Catholics and about Jews and about straights and about soldiers." Savage then likened Richards' outburst to Sen. John Kerry's (D-MA) "botched joke" at a campaign rally on October 30 in Pasadena, California: "Kerry did it in an albeit high-class way, but John Kerry did the same thing, in my opinion."

As Media Matters for America has documented (here, here, and here), Savage, a self-identified "independent conservative," has repeatedly said "hateful things" about minorities, immigrants, and various ethnic groups, recently ridiculing Ethiopians by claiming they "have flies around their eyes" and calling for "immigrants" to return to "the fetid societies ... they ran from."

From the November 20 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:

SAVAGE: You're listening to the character Kramer from Seinfeld in a tirade at a comedy club Friday night that set off a shockwave across America. This is not a Mel Gibson situation. It's -- I don't think he can use Mel's defense that it was the liquor talking. This is, to me, from the gut.

This is an interesting story, but this is what the subtext of liberalism really is. Under the surface, if you got them in a room alone, I guarantee you they'd say the same kind of hateful things about Catholics and about Jews and about straights and about soldiers.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200611220003?src=newsbox-www.crooksandliars.com
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:06 PM
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1. Yeah, whatever...
What a nincowpoop. What a maroon.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:12 PM
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2. What evidence is there that Michael Richards is a liberal?
Does he have a history of speaking out for liberal candidates?

Not the charity work, that could be (and should be) non-partisan.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:14 PM
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4. This is the new RW thing--anything bad, call it Dem/liberal. I heard this same crap
flipping through radio, on the Rush Limbaugh show. Trying to make some kind of "liberal/conservative" comparison, with Mel Gibson being the conservative, and, presumably, Michael Richards as the "liberal" :eyes: Um, OK...
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:30 PM
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11. most of the Seinfeld cast was pretty apolitical, far as I knew
especially Jerry, it goes with his "don't give a shit" approach.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:22 PM
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16. I know the other three are liberal
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 08:23 PM by fujiyama
but I'm not sure how active.

I have no idea about Kramer's politics, and of course they're irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. All I know is he's a racist ass hole. I do know it would have been weird for him on the set considering there were a lot of liberals behind the show like Jerry and Larry David (who's more outspoken in his politics).
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:50 PM
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22. well, I always thought Jerry was kinda detatched from all the "mortal" concerns, lol
I kinda got the impression he just liked to sit back with his millions and be left the hell alone.

Not that that's a bad thing, lol
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:12 PM
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3. Michael Savage = Opportunistic Piece of Sh*t and Spin Doctor
How the f*ck do you even spin this into a political thing anyway? It takes a sick mofo like Savage to think of that.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:14 PM
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5. You didn't need to get senator Allen alone to hear his hateful comments
I am sure Savage spent a lot of time talking about that. :eyes:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:17 PM
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6. "Guarantee"...
let's see your proof asshole!
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:18 PM
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7. Savage has got hella long arms
Because that link to Kerry was one heck of a reach.
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:23 PM
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8. "I guarantee you"?
Does the use of this phrase mean that this moron is willing to put his money where his mouth is?

Bet me, Weiner.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:27 PM
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9. he's right about 'classic liberals'
And those would be republicans and Dino democrats, the corporate imperialists who
endorse the war establishment. Its all built on racism:

"That's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob, what is the matter with them?" - Nixon the Republican demigod
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:29 PM
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10. everyone is a liberal according to Savage. OhReally, OxyRush, Bush, Hannity...
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:32 PM
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12. Help me out here, I struggle to comprehend insane people....
I still fail to see any link between Richards and Liberalism, how does his logic work?

:shrug:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:02 PM
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It doesn't, but that didn't stop Rush Limbaugh from doing the same thing on his show.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:04 PM
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15. Check out my post below
#14. I'm onto the twisted logic of Michael Savage. It's bullshit.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:02 PM
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13. Savage is forgetting that Conservative Mel Gibson. (actually not quite)
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 08:07 PM by Bernardo de La Paz
Well, I see he did mention him, but he used the old excuse, just the liquor talking.

Funny thing is that racists don't become un-racist when drunk, and non-racists don't become racist when drunk. However, close-mouthed people often do become loose-tongued when drunk.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:03 PM
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14. The twisted logic of Michael Savage, and other follies.
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 08:07 PM by mcscajun
I guarantee that Savage is making assumptions in every possible direction, and all of them are wrong and/or hateful.

First off, like Paul Rodriquez(1) already has, Savage is probably confusing Michael Richards the actor with Cosmo Kramer the character. The confusion was compounded by a release from the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish organization, condemning Richards' tirade.(2) Mr. Savage's confusion is further fueled by a likely assumption that Michael Richards is so poor an actor that his character must reflect his own life. We already know how Savage feels about anyone not of his own background, and the character of Kramer is, to use RW-speak for a moment, "a New York Jew" -- Richards was raised Catholic. To use a "Seinfeldism", "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Second assumption: If Richards is "a New York Jew", he is therefore, automatically a liberal. As someone who grew up in NYC and worked in multi-ethnic neighborhoods, I can guarantee Mr. Savage that on this score (like so many), he is wrong, wrong, wrong; like every other ethnic group, Jewish people in NYC span the entirety of the political spectrum.

His third and final damning assumption: all liberals are closet racists. Mr. Savage can take this last assumption, along with the rest that led him to his hateful comments, print them on 20-lb bond paper, roll them up, and insert them in his nether orifice -- and I hope he gets paper cuts. That is the Kindest thing I can say about him tonight. :mad:

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Fellow comedians and fans have been quick to criticize Richards -- and misrepresent his religious background. Comedian Paul Rodriquez held a press conference at the Laugh Factory, saying that Richards should know better, because the Hollywood community defended Jews against actor Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic tirades.

The implication was that Richards, a Jew, should not be launching racist attacks. He shouldn't, but he also isn't Jewish.

"Someone needs to tell Rodriquez that Michael isn't a Jew," said a television director who has known Richards for years.


http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=16838

2
"Richards' repeated use of the 'n-word' and apparent reference to lynching is offensive in any context. There is no excuse for such insensitive and bigoted language. It has no place in a comedy club and no place in America and must be clearly repudiated," the release said.


snip

The release did not address Richard's own religion. In the past, the ADL has regularly taken public stances against instances of racism unrelated to anti-Semitism.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=16838
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:42 PM
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17. I think it's kind of like, "Event X happened, therefore liberals are evil"
No matter what event X is.

Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl, therefore liberals are evil.
The atomic number of Protactinium isn't divisible by 3, therefore liberals are evil.
A chemical factory exploded today, therefore liberals are evil.

And on and on and on.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:22 PM
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19. Yeah, pretty much. Knee-jerk reaction; emphasis on the Jerk part
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 09:23 PM by mcscajun
of Michael Savage and his ilk. I don't mean to imply at all that there was any extensive thought process in Mr. Savage's rattle-trap brain; I imagine all these assumptions and errors flew through the void inside in a nano-second. :evilgrin:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:51 PM
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18. I've been expecting this
that's what the media frenzy is "really" all about. they've been dying to lay some giant poop on a liberal any liberal. As I understand it, the videotaped incident happened some time ago.

Is he a liberal? Does he sound like a liberal ?(we're all supposedly kneejerk politically correct zombies, right?) And yet at the same time the Right are peeing in their pants trying to show we are actually racist and lying about our pc values.

Jeebus. Who can comprehend this twisted nonsense?

Who knows? He;s a fXXin lunatic, that's for sure.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:24 PM
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20. The incident happened on Friday. It only took a day plus a few hours for the video
to get out.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:35 PM
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21. I see. I heard something about July.
my mistake
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