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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:23 PM
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{UK} Motorists to give fingerprints (BBC)
Drivers who get stopped by the police could have their fingerprints taken at the roadside, under a new plan to help officers check people's identities.

A hand-held device being tested by 10 forces in England and Wales is linked to a database of 6.5m prints.
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Officers promise prints will not be kept on file but concerns have been raised about civil liberties.
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Officers will scan a vehicle's number plates using a special camera that checks if the car is subject to an offence, like being uninsured.

If the driver does not convince police he is giving them a correct name, they will fingerprint him and verify his identity on the spot, instead of taking him to the police station.
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more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6170070.stm

Chertoff probably salivates uncontrollably when he thinks of this gizmo. I assume we're already working on deploying it here, just hush-hush.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:25 PM
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1. I got your fingerprint...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:30 PM
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2. England does not have a constitution to protect it's people...
unlike here.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:33 PM
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4. Yeah, 'cause ours has been doing such a bang-up job...
Ahem--<toilet paper>--cough-cough...
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:31 PM
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3. Oh, now a DRIVER'S LICENSE isn't good enough?
"Just in case he might be lying, we're going to use this handy-dandy wireless fingerprinter machine and keep the data--oh, no, not keep the data--CHECK the data, and then let the person go. If he IS who he (and his state-issued identification) SAYS he is.

"Nothing to worry about. All on the up-and-up, I do say. Move along. Put your finger here on the way out, if you please."

SAY WHAT?!!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:34 PM
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5. This is why I don't understand people who think they'll solve their problems by leaving the US
Every other country is equally subject to the same problems as the US is, if not more so. Moving away won't solve anything.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:42 PM
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6. yea right
Labour will lose the next general election if that goes ahead... consider how
they'll have to revise all the UK websites that advise citizens of their rights.

The nazi takeover is in progress on both sides of the atlantic, with the big
tentacle crossing the pond trying to further punatize drugs laws, abstinance
to prevent AIDs, heinously concentrated wealth distribution, and prison militarism
as the domimant cultural importance, with prime ministers prancing around talking
about guns, fear, nuclear bombs, submarines and all the weapons of hatred they
are about with the nazi klaw from washington.

When can the police stop and question you

A police officer can stop and question you in the street or a park or other outside place if s/he suspects you of committing an offence or believes that you have witnessed a possible offence.

If you are stopped and questioned, you are expected to be co-operative. You must give your name and address to the officer if asked for it. If you don’t, this is an offence and you could be arrested.

If the police suspect you of committing an offence they may ask you for an explanation of your behaviour. You have the right to refuse to give an explanation.

Once you have given the police your name and address it is up to them to decide whether they want to ask more questions. If they don’t then you should be allowed to go. If they do want to ask you more questions and they suspect you of having committed a crime they can:-

* ask you to attend voluntarily at the police station to help with enquiries; or
* detain you for questioning for up to 6 hours; or
* arrest you for allegedly committing an offence.

If the police suspect you of being a witness to a crime they can invite you to attend the police station to help with enquiries but you are not obliged to do so and cannot be detained at the police station.

If you have been questioned by the police, either as a suspect or a witness, the police should make clear before you are released or leave the police station what further action, if any, will be taken, for example, whether you have been charged and will be reported to the Procurator Fiscal or whether you have been eliminated from the enquiry.


http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/n6w/scotland/your_rights/legal_system_scotland/police_powers_scotland.htm
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