Freeptards defying description.....

[Aviation Pro]

...words fail me. Enjoy and if you can stomach it, link here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1742943/posts

Under fire, US marines hand off battered Fallujah
Christian Science Monitor ^ | November 24, 2006 | Scott Peterson


Posted on 11/22/2006 5:53:57 PM PST by jmc1969


From Observation Post Blazer, marines view Fallujah through a thick sheet of bullet-proof glass - already tested with numerous impacts. Or they stare through night-vision goggles or a thermal imaging scope that can pick up the heat of a dog hundreds of yards away.

But with just 300 marines, the US military footprint is smaller in this Sunni stronghold of more than 300,000 than it has been in two years.

"A lot of us feel like we have our hands tied behind our back," says Cpl. Peter Mattice, of Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment. "In Fallujah, know our - they know when to stop, just before we engage."

During this transition, frustration runs deep in this fortified bunker, and at a handful of posts that now dot Fallujah.

Fallujah was the test case counter-insurgency invasion in November 2004 - effectively destroying the city to root out insurgents in the biggest urban battle for US marines since Hue City in Vietnam in 1968.

"Fallujah has an iconic value to the Marine Corps," says Colonel Nicholson, commander of the Regimental Combat Team 5, which covers Fallujah and a populated swath of Anbar Province, in an interview. "Fallujah falling would be like Iwo Jima falling to the Japanese again after World War II - it would be intolerable."

Far too few US troops with totally BS ROEs the story of the Iraq War. The light footprint strategy is just about as stupid as the we have to be seen as nice guys and hold our fire strategy.
I pray we will not see the day when al-Qaeda controls Fallujah.


1 posted on 11/22/2006 5:53:59 PM PST by jmc1969
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"A lot of us feel like we have our hands tied behind our back," says Cpl. Peter Mattice, of Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment. "In Fallujah, know our - they know when to stop, just before we engage."

....thank you defeatocrats....just like vietnam when the enemy would use the rules of our soldiers against them...I hope dick durbin, jean kerri and john murtha choke on their cranberry sauce tomorrow....

2 posted on 11/22/2006 5:56:47 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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OK, words don't fail me. And WHO IN THE FUCK GOT US INTO THIS HELLHOLE, YOU FUCKING FREEPTARD MORON? THAT'S RIGHT, YOUR FUCKING HERO, LITTLE MONKEY. ASSHOLE!!!!

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To: jmc1969
I don't agree. It's the rules of engagement, politically correct war isn't _real_ war. Real war is when you destroy the enemy and conquer their territory. We stop well short in Fallajuh and stopped well short of the Axis Powers (Iran, Syria and NK) in the goofy strategic war.

3 posted on 11/22/2006 6:00:28 PM PST by veracious
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To: God luvs America
Well, this Cpl. does represent the opinion of a lot of Marines I serve with. None of them are defeatists, they want to win like they know how to.



4 posted on 11/22/2006 6:01:56 PM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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300 troops even with unlimited ROEs would be hard pressed to hold a city of 300,000.



5 posted on 11/22/2006 6:03:12 PM PST by jmc1969
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"Marines" should be capitalize, Mr. Peterson.
"bill clinton" is an example of lower case, Mr. Peterson.

Are we square, Mr. Peterson?

5.56mm


6 posted on 11/22/2006 6:06:07 PM PST by M Kehoe
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"A lot of us feel like we have our hands tied behind our back," says Cpl. Peter Mattice, of Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment. "In Fallujah, know our - they know when to stop, just before we engage."
Oh, you must mean the "Democrat House Rules." Excellent choice if you want to engineer another defeat like Vietnam. And isn't that what the Woodstock crowd has been saying Iraq was from Day One?


7 posted on 11/22/2006 6:11:02 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: bethelgrad
my intent was not to disrespect the Cpl or his men rather the do-gooders from the left I mentioned who hope our nation loseses and are in large part the reason our forces are fighting with one hand tied behind their backs....the incessant need by these sc^m to refer to the troops as cold blooded killers, terrorists or compare them to the Nazi's/Pol Pot regime or Soviet gulag operators has the troops thinking twice, three times and even four times rather than fighting the battle that needs to be fought.....

8 posted on 11/22/2006 6:13:50 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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"A lot of us feel like we have our hands tied behind our back," says Cpl. Peter Mattice, of Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment. "
Here is absolute unrefutable proof for you true believers that the scumbags running this politically correct war tied our troops hands behind their backs. Shame on them, for doing this to our troops, all the way up the chain of command to 1600 Pennsylvania ave, and the U.S. Congress.

Fallujah should have been B-52'd the day they hung the burnt bodies of the U.S. Security officials from the bridge.

Enough with political correctness.


9 posted on 11/22/2006 6:20:18 PM PST by gitmogrunt (Conservative and Republican are not synonymous.)
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To: God luvs America
What was the other war we worried about hearts and minds. Vietnam. We have all these rules of engagements that prevents us from winning which leads to chaos. Which means we never win hearts and minds. It's hard to fight a war when you have a bunch of politicians at a safe distance who are trying to look like nice guys by fighting a half war.

10 posted on 11/22/2006 6:24:49 PM PST by Mr. Right Now
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300 troops?? I had no idea. We are playing to lose... what happened to victory?



11 posted on 11/22/2006 6:25:10 PM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate tag lines but I don;t know how...)
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I can't understand why Washington so afraid to wipe out this Hellhole. Its like a cancer. Just cut it out before it spreads.

12 posted on 11/22/2006 6:30:00 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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Fallujah's been a ****hole for thousands of years, and one city no one would have shed a tear over. We had a chance to wipe up the mess by wiping out the mess and blew it.



13 posted on 11/22/2006 6:31:43 PM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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Sadly, the "shock and awe" never really came in the places we needed it most. Is it too late now?



14 posted on 11/22/2006 6:36:12 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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[uppityperson]

1. Morans. Just cast asparagus at them.

[driver8]

6. Damn, the Dems sure have been busy since Nov. 7!

How did the Dems "tie the troops' hands behind their backs" so quickly?

These people are freakin' morans who refuse to face up to the truth. Their gutless hero, Chimpy McFlightsuit, is the reason that our troops are there.

[bluestateguy]

2. Then maybe it's time to deploy the 101st Fighting Keyboardists

Otherwise, they are kindly asked to keep quiet.

[tinfoil tiaras]

4. The Chickenhawk division, preferably

[tinfoil tiaras]

3. Holy. Shit.

"sc^m"? What the hell does that mean? "scum"?

And seriously? "lefty-loonies" or "loony-left" is SO old. Wow. I'm a "lefty-loony". I'm hurt :sarcasm: .

[muntrv]

5. The Repukes have controlled Congress and the White House for the

last 6 years, so why are calling these ROEs "Democrat House Rules?"

[muntrv]

7. Delete.

[Rageneau]

12. Golly, if the Dems can mess up Iraq when we have no control over it...

Just imagine what a mess we'll make when we finally have some say-so about how this failed war by this failed president is fought.

This all goes to show that Clinton should have anticipated the resistance in Fallujah and done something about it back in 1993.

[spillthebeans]

8. Good that they realize that just like

with Kellogg Brown Root in Vietnam and now Halliburton nobody has an intention to win something

[muntrv]

9. So how many freepers are going to enlist?

[EST]

10. Utter ignorance and total, cruel stupidity reign supreme.

No wonder they think we are intellectual elitists--it's difficult, with this bunch, not to be.

[dubykc]

11. I didn't know we wielded that much power...

that we can do so much without even taking control of congress yet.