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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:14 AM
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Why is Cheney in Saudi Arabia and Bush1 in Abu Dhabi at Thanksgiving?
Bush is leaving the US again, next week after spending a scant four days back after his Asian tour, his daughters are in South America. Is something up?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:17 AM
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1. I've been wondering the same damn thing.
:shrug: Something going on with these fuckwads. What are they up to as more of the same bullshit is not working?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:30 AM
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26. agree
nt
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:18 AM
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2. Maybe it's akin to dogs peeing to mark their territory . . . n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:33 AM
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7. Then they should fly to a few federal prisons and take a leak
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:19 AM
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3. negotiating their golden parachutes?
They probably want to make sure the Saudi money gets put in their swiss accounts before the impeachments. :sarcasm:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:22 AM
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4. They Are Giving Thanks
To their real masters.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:26 AM
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5. The rumor is an attempted restoration of the Baath party
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 09:27 AM by lapfog_1
only with Tariq Asziz as the new Saddam. While Tariq probably wants out of jail and his trial for crimes against humanity (and the likely sentence of death), one has to wonder if he wants to now try to re-establish the rule of the Baathists. The Shia will not want to take part and the Kurds will feel the ultimate sense of betrayal. OTOH, for the oil companies, this might be the best solution, if they can control him. Bush I and Cheney are off trying to get the blessings of the gulf states behind this, along with money to re-equip the Iraqi army and to rebuild... putting a more Arab face on things. The Iranians will be very upset. But then they're about to get their nuke facilities bombed as well.. and I'm guessing that Cheney is briefing the Saudis on this point as well.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:36 AM
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9. Tariq Asziz i thought he was dead
There was a story two years ago that said he was in Jordan dying.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:57 AM
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13. Nope, he is in jail.
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phillysuse Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:05 AM
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15. Tariq Aziz is the only person who can be a successful
strongman controlling the factions in Iraq.
That's because he is a Christian and as a Christian is above the Shia-Sunni
fracture line.
I heard this two weeks ago from an Iranian refugee taxi driver in Washington DC.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:11 AM
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19. lol Why not get the British from 1920? they were Christians too


http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/history/britishindex.htm



Britain set up a colonial regime in Iraq after a long military campaign during World War I. In response to Iraqi resistance, including a country-wide uprising in 1920, British forces battled for over a decade to pacify the country, using airplanes, armored cars, firebombs and mustard gas. Air attacks were used to shock and awe, to teach obedience and to force the collection of taxes. Winston Churchill, as responsible cabinet minister in the early years, saw Iraq as an experiment in high-technology colonial control. Though officials in London sometimes had qualms about the violence, colonial administrators on the ground like Gertrude Bell expressed enthusiasm for the power of the imperial military enterprise.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:27 AM
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20. But they weren't Iraqi.
The CRIME is that Saddam offered (in the last minutes before invasion) to leave with his family... he simply needed a place that would take him that he trusted (and details about how much loot). If Saddam and his sons were gone, the most logical strongman to take his place was... Tariq Aziz. We could have had the same political structure without the war and the destruction. And Tariq could have stepped in as strongman, and started political reforms gradually (letting the Shia and Kurds share some power... if the US had pulled the strings in the background.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:46 AM
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25. There was no hate between Shia and Sunni before the war
It all started after the invasion


p2og, pseudo-guerillas etc
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=662
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:33 AM
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6. Maybe they're lining up places to leave in exile
when the international courts start gathering up charges on which to try them.

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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:34 AM
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8. Because Thanksgiving is a time to be with friends and family
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:06 AM
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17. exactly Mi Casa es Su Casa

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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:39 AM
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10. They're all planning their escape routes and their safe havens....
....I hope there's someone righteous at DoJ, who has all the account numbers of the criminal cabal, so the day these scumbags flee their assets can be frozen.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:53 AM
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11. They don't want to be mistaken for turkeys
which of course they are.

The Washington Post had a funny front page photo today of the Turkey-in-chief pardoning an innocent bird. It looked more like he was about to snap the poor critter's neck. Here the same photo from the China Daily.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2006-11/23/content_740907.htm
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:56 AM
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12. I'm afraid they're paving the way for an attack on Iran
When these guys talk about threats I think the threat is their well-being, not America's.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:57 AM
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14. They Are With Friends - Carving Up The Turkeys - Which Is Us
Distributing the spoils of war.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:05 AM
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16. CHENEY having dinner with the family
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:07 AM
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18. B-b-b-b-ut
Cheney's "people" swear he's totally NOT THERE!

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-11-23T104026Z_01_COL329346_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-CHENEY.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-4

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's office on Thursday denied reports he was in Iraq for a previously unannounced visit to celebrate the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday with U.S. troops.

Iraqi state television and several other Arabic news channels reported his arrival, but the U.S. embassy could not confirm it.

A spokeswoman for Cheney, Megan McGinn, told Reuters in Washington: "That is not true. He is not there now." Asked if he had plans to travel there later on Thursday, she said: "Not to my knowledge"...
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:38 AM
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22. Wasn't the OP saying Cheney was in Saudi Arabia, not Iraq?
I don't think Cheney needs to go to Iraq, nor does he want to - there aren't any deals to be made there at the moment, no power brokering to facilitate.

The money action is in the KSA - especially with Baker and BFEE on the move trying to create their own reality, Cheney and his Halliburton cronies have their own work to do massaging egos, stroking deals and in general solidifying relations with their own KSA partners (and yes, the bedroom analogy works here, works very well....)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:45 AM
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24. I stand corrected
:)
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:33 AM
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21. they do their dirty work when we get distracted by simple things like holidays and family cheer..
cant ever take your eyes of them..always trouble and scandals brewing...
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:41 AM
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23. Giving thanks with their cohorts for the looting of America
as the rain starts to fall on their parade.
:dem:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:11 PM
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27. The Pirates are visiting OUR MONEY--the bucks they've plundered.
Mystery solved.

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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:24 PM
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28. Makes one scratch their head
The retarded monkey* has never been one given to travel, unless it's to the pigfarm or camp David. Why is he jetting all over the place now, why is poppy in SA, where is the dickhead?

It may be wise to keep both your eyes and ears open, it's a very dangerous time right now. In January the investigations begin, they aren't going to come through in one piece.
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