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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:19 PM
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Another facet to the Michael's story
I remember when Seinfeld was on network tv, before syndication.

Among my peers, no one watched it - primarily because of it's lack of black characters. Much like Happy Days. And Mash.

Oh, there was the token one or two blacks, but still.....

I, myself, didn't tune into those shows until they went into syndication. I had grown up a lot by then.

I'm wondering if the two guys who were heckling Richards came from that school of thought?

Just my $.2

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:28 PM
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1. Well they did pay for tix to go see him. I thought Richards got owned by the
hecklers. Game set and match to the guy who said he had no career after "Seinfield" :rofl: There was no rejoinder to that, really.

After watching this a few times, I really do think that Richards was trying to do "edgy shtick", his voice cadence comes off that way to me, especially where he says right afterwards "this shocks you, to see what's underneath" etc.

He completely failed to pull it off, and it was lame as well as offensive, IMO. The fact that I think he was trying to say this in context of an act does not excuse it in any way. He should have chosen something different.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:37 PM
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4. This is a story with no heroes
The hecklers are hardly saints themselves. From what I've seen of them, they're a pair of opportunist scumbags.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:37 PM
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5. Thanks for playing but I don't buy the equivalence. n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:28 PM
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2. Richards "nailed" the WRONG GUYS
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/21/AR2006112101886.html

The irony of the insult, according to audience member Pitts: It wasn't the black guy who interrupted him. The black man sat next to the alleged heckler. Pitts told our colleague Darryl Fears the two were in a group of roughly 10 people who ambled into the Laugh Factory during Richards's routine. The comic ordered them to shut up, then asked, " 'What are you talking about?' "

The black guy spoke up: "My friend doesn't think you're funny." The loud-talking friend "was maybe Arab or Hispanic but not black," said Pitts, who was not part of the group. "The way it's been portrayed is that a group of black guys came to the club and were disorderly . . . and that's inaccurate, absolutely."
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 05:57 PM
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6. Didn't they admit to coming in late and disrupting the show
on CNN?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:17 PM
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11. Dem nigras mus' somehow be GUILTY!
EVEN if dey warn't da ones causin' da "mishap." Dey be on coloured (or Italian, African, Indian, Jewish, Carribean, Mexican) folks time! Serves 'em right!
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:23 PM
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12. lame
thanks 4 playing
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:50 PM
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13. Right back atcha!!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/21/AR2006112101886.html

The irony of the insult, according to audience member Pitts: It wasn't the black guy who interrupted him. The black man sat next to the alleged heckler. Pitts told our colleague Darryl Fears the two were in a group of roughly 10 people who ambled into the Laugh Factory during Richards's routine. The comic ordered them to shut up, then asked, " 'What are you talking about?' "

The black guy spoke up: "My friend doesn't think you're funny." The loud-talking friend "was maybe Arab or Hispanic but not black," said Pitts, who was not part of the group. "The way it's been portrayed is that a group of black guys came to the club and were disorderly . . . and that's inaccurate, absolutely."
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:11 PM
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14. Karenina...
:loveya:

Love ya', girl!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:31 PM
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3. Never watched the show, thought it was stupid.
Let's wrap 30 minutes around one of the characters going off about the little things in life. Fucking yawn.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:32 PM
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7. You contributed ten times the usual amount! (20 cents instead of 2 cents)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:48 PM
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9. I was never good with money
:)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:43 PM
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8. Happy Days and Mash were much older shows
from the 1970s and early 80s vs, Seinfeld from the 1990s.
MASH did several episodes about racism as did the all white Family Ties. Mash was also, of course, hugely anti-war. I cannot remember any such progressive message in Seinfeld although I found many of them to be hilarious.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:50 PM
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10. The show's "message" is a moot point.
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