Just WTF is so honorable about an "honorable" exit?

[Wetzelbill]

Or "Peace with honor" or whatever anybody wants to call it. Seems to me an "honorable" exit is something all the warmmongers, both politicians and pundits, are demanding because they hate having to admit how wrong they were about Iraq in the first place. They all advocated an immoral and losing war, so now even though everything is in chaos, somehow we are supposed to believe that because it is so screwed up our soldiers have to stay their and Americans have to keep paying for it. No think-tank or keyboarding, draft-dodging tough guy wants to admit their half-baked notions of security and warfare led us into a lost war, so to cover their asses and egos our soldiers are still stuck there.

Nobody wants to just leave and cut our losses. They all talk about "phased withdrawals" and "stable governments" that all are supposed to magically occur 6 months from now. "In 6 months we'll begin withdrawing" is the new mantra. Well, what about those who die in the next 6 months? What did they die for? What about those who were crippled and maimed for life in those 6 months? Are they all just going to be casualties because politicians and pundits don't have the guts to stand up and point out the obvious that we are in a losing situation that will only get worse and worse and worse? What do you do when our troop's presence is making the situation tragically devolve into chaos with no end in sight, that we can neither control or stop? I would say you get out of that situation. But we have to wait for the Beltway tough guys to cover their asses, so that years from now in other elections and conflicts they can brag about how if only the American public or the Pentagon or the White House would have listened to them, the war would have been one. Really, it would have! Meanwhile, our soldiers are getting blown up and crippled for no good reason.

There is nothing honorable about that.

[cassiepriam]

1. American is a total disgrace. No honor at all.

Invaded a country illegally and immorally.
Raped, murdered, tortured innocent men, women and children.
Our own troops have been killed and maimed for no reason.
Iraq's infrastructure and land destroyed.
A $4 trillion tab that will take generations to pay off.
America now hated, for good reason.

[Dangerman]

9. I agree...

Saddam's "crimes" are a slap in the face compared to Bush's!

[lvx35]

2. Maybe the exit is the first honorable thing about this war.

in relative terms anyway...I just wish somebody would stand up and say the truth, the war was immoral, no amount of propagandizing or spinning it will make it moral. Our nation tried to commit a crime and got its ass kicked.

[dubykc]

4. My thoughts exactly.

[jannyk]

3. What exactly

would this 'Honorable Exit' look like? Anyone bothered to define this yet 'cause they haven't yet defined what Success/Winning would be.

How can we have an 'honorable exit' from a war started with a dishonerable invasion followed by a dishonerable occupation.

We lost this war 3 years ago. We lose more ground, more lives and more credability with each passing day. They need to be looking for the least disastrous exit, Honor is no longer an option.

[lvx35]

6. I know, its like looking for a way to honorably stop robbing a bank. nt

[KingFlorez]

5. It's about knowing when to end a lost cause

At this point, I think the dishonorable thing is staying in Iraq and letting the casualties go further up. The only honorable thing to do now is pull out.

[madrchsod]

7. it will be a phased withdrawal

there is not any other way to do this unless we want our troops fight their way out of iraq. what about those iraqi`s who have worked for us that will be killed when we leave? i for one do not want to see another american climbing to the roof of the embassy or iraqi`s in panic at the gates of the emerald city. if we do not negotiate a withdraw our troops our troops will be slaughter in the retreat. going in is always easy,withdrawing is what causes the pain

[spanone]

8. There is no honor invading a soveriegn nation and completely fucking it up.

[NOLADEM]

10. An honorable exit in this case will be a lie sufficient for the average American to take the loss

while being able to lie to themselves that it wasn't a loss.