LAT: Iraq strategy takes page from Vietnam playbook, but Bush, commanders plan to win this time

[DeepModem Mom]

NEWS ANALYSIS
Iraq strategy takes page from Vietnam playbook
By Peter Spiegel, Times Staff Writer
November 24, 2006

WASHINGTON — New tactics favored by U.S. commanders in Iraq borrow heavily from the end of another war that might seem an unlikely source for a winning strategy: Vietnam.

The tactics — an influx of military advisors and a speeded-up handover to indigenous forces followed by a gradual U.S. withdrawal — resemble those in place as the U.S. effort in Vietnam reached its end.

In historical assessments and the American recollection, Vietnam was the unwinnable war. But to many in the armed forces, Vietnam as a war actually was on its way to succeeding when the Nixon administration and Congress, bowing to public impatience, pulled the plug: first withdrawing U.S. combat forces and then blocking funding and supplies to the South Vietnamese army.

If they hadn't, the South Vietnamese army, which had been bolstered by U.S. advisors and a more focused "hearts and minds" campaign in the later stages of the war, could have been able to fend off the communist North, many leading military thinkers have argued.

In their view, progress was undermined by President Nixon's decision to begin withdrawing U.S. troops in 1969 in the face of political pressure at home, despite military objections that the South Vietnamese army was not ready to go it alone. Another key U.S. mistake, they contend, was the deep cuts Congress made to military aid to Saigon beginning in 1974.

For many in the military, the lessons of Vietnam are clear: Maintain public support, and be patient.

Consciously or not, President Bush encapsulated that view during his weekend trip to Hanoi, where he was asked whether there were lessons in Vietnam for the war in Iraq. Instead of military tactics or strategy, he answered by talking about the impatience of the American public, and how success in war can be slow. "We'll succeed unless we quit," Bush said....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-na-vietnam24nov24,0,975407,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[Monkeyman]

1. Dam they never learn

The tatics didn't work in Nam it will not work now

[bahrbearian]

2. Well, you know the definition of Insanity .

[dmosh42]

3. Never had a chance in Vietnam!

We had over 400,000 men in Vietnam by 1970, and we burned half the jungle down and poisoned the rest. Still, there was no way we could win. We started out backing the corrupt Diem regime, who all the people hated, and then murdered him in a coup, and replaced him with another stiff. I'm waiting for the axe to fall on Maliki, as we try to keep it going for another couple years in Iraq.

[DeepModem Mom]

4. Yep -- another couple of years, and at what cost! nt