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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:58 PM
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DOBSON Is Dead Wrong When He Says Liberals Have No Values
DOBSON Is Dead Wrong When He Says Liberals Have No Values

DOBSON:Those again on the liberal end of the spectrum are those who have no value system, or at least they say there is no moral and immoral. There's no right or wrong. . . . But when a religious leader, or especially an evangelical, falls, guess who is the most judgmental of him and calling him a hypocrite? . . . Those that said there is no right and wrong in the first place. The truth of the matter is there is right and wrong. And we all within our midst have failures, and they do occur."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5165412,00.html


Check out what LAND SHARK has to say about IDEALISM AND REAL AMERICAN VALUES:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2791861&mesg_id=2791861
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:59 PM
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1. Holy Haggard!
:wow:

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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:01 PM
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2. Hey Dobson all I saw feeding the Homeless was Liberals
Not one of your people even showed up hmmm no values huh
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:11 PM
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8. My experience, too
I've done a fair bit of volunteer work at hospices, shelters and food banks. Inevitably, most of the people are liberals and other social progressives. I've also found a high concentration of atheists, too. There is something about the lack of an "It will all be better... in the next life" attitude that makes doing good important, I guess.
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:18 PM
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10. You'd see the Dobson/Bush types if it was a photo op - if there was something in it for them
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:03 PM
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3. To call one a hypocrite is not being judgemental jimbo
If one makes a living by trashing a segment of society for what they do and then secretly does and enjoys what they do, that person is a hypocrite, no judgement required.

But dobson need not worry because his constitution hating lemmings salivate at his every hate infused word.

I'm a flaming liberal. I've had one run in with the law, a speeding ticket in 1984; I've never written an insufficient funds check in 36 years of check writing, my yard is immaculate, my neighbors love me, I don't play loud music, I give a big chunk to charities of my choice, I'm a veteran and I don't go to church. Fuck you and the dumbasses you ride in on dobson.
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:18 PM
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11. Wouldn't you say that...
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 01:18 PM by Donkeykick
Dobson is good at spin? I wonder why he doesn't run for office? :eyes:

if one makes a living by trashing a segment of society for what they do and then secretly does and enjoys what they do, that person is a hypocrite, no judgement required.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:22 PM
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15. dobson wouldn't run for office for fear of being
"Judged" by evil liberals for being an evil constitution hating ogre who cares not about the teachings of Jesus. There I go again, spouting the truth, therefore, not judging. Oh the dilemmas those who "believe" weave.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:04 PM
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4. what a sack of shit
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:07 PM
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5. If you pay no attention to these types they tend to become obscure
By giving any attention to Dobson, Donohue, Kennedy, Falwell, Robertson, Haggard, etc. you give them their power.
If you want to take away that power simply shun them into obscurity.

They have no place or meaning in my life therefore I don't care what they say. They are simply entertainers or talking heads trying to wield power outside of their tiny spheres of influence.

Laugh at them, ignore them, but do not suppose them to have any sway over free-thinking, rational people.

Never let them frame the argument.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:07 PM
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6. Dobson has no time for helping "friend" Ted Haggard
After telling his good old friend Ted Haggard he'd join the prayer team to help "counsel" him after Haggard was snared in a scandal involving three years of meth-fueled sex with a male prostitute, Dobson has changed his mind.

"It is with great regret - and after much prayer and discussion with friends and family - that I have had to reconsider my involvement in the panel overseeing Ted's restoration," Dobson relayed in a written statement Nov. 7. "Emotionally and spiritually, I wanted to be of help - but the reality is I don't have the time to devote to such a critical responsibility."

How long did it take him to figure out that he couldn't squeeze Haggard into his schedule? Oh, about 24 hours.

During Dobson's Nov. 6 Focus on the Family radio address he said, "And I do reach through these microphones and put an arm around Ted. He is my brother, he's my friend. I said in the press release that he will always be my friend. But because homosexual indiscretions have occurred, they must be dealt with, and they will be."
More...
http://www.pridesource.com/article.shtml?article=21093

Those are very convenient morals Mr. Dobson.

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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:10 PM
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7. As a Liberal, I think lots of things are moral or immoral.
Lets take Dobson's favorite topic..IMmorality.

Hatred is immoral. Gay baiting is immoral. Demonizing and bearing false witness is immoral. Lying us into a war is immoral. Destroying our children's future is immoral. Hypocrisy is certainly IMMORAL.

If Liberals didn't have a value system, then we wouldn't find people like Dobson and shrub and the rest of the cons (Neo, Theo, whatever...) so offensive and utterly IMMORAL.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:14 PM
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9. They also say we have no convictions
With subpoena power, the convictions will come, trust me.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:22 PM
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16. Sadly I agree with Dobson on this one because Tedd Haggard,
Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney, and a whole boatload of Republicans, with more to come have all the convictions.
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:19 PM
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12. F.F.F.F.
Fucking Fundie Fucking Freak

Get OFF of MY planet! Hat tip to Harrison Ford... :)

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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:20 PM
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13. Bulldust
We dont stand on a pulpit and preach values we don't adhere to. We are not bigots like the preachers and evangelists are.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:21 PM
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14. humanists and atheists have values and morals. We don't need a book to define them
When we decide to be good people, it is a conscious decision.

And we do it because its the right thing to do, not because we are seeking immortal life or some type of reward in eternity (unlike the religious)
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:25 PM
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17. what a jerk
This female, liberal Buddhist can read your Bible, "Mr." Dobson.

So, Mr. Dobson, may I suggest you consult Matthew 5:3-11 (the "Beatitudes"), and Matthew 25: 31-46 (the passage with "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these, my brethren, ye have done it unto me.") Those are our values, you jerk. Being nice to people!


Do no harm, mitigate suffering, exercise compassion.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:28 PM
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18. Dobson is WRONG from the get-go; calling himself a Christian when he's anything BUT...
...and from there on out, it's just down...down...downhill straight to the Hell he says he believes in.

If anything, Dobson IS the embodiment of the Anti-Christ (i.e. being anti everything Christ stands for), so people would do well not to give this monster any credence at all, but surely NONE as any spokesperson for the believers of Christ's teachings.

It's really that simple.
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liberalEd Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:37 PM
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19. Has Dobson ever NOT been dead wrong about anything? n/t
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:46 PM
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20. Dobson is DEAD WRONG. Period.
too many words.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:56 PM
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21. You know he's a moron to say that the only Pres he ever endorsed was W
Even Larry King seemed surprised over Dobson saying that he has never endorsed any President except the current dismal Liar-in-Chief. Dobson was critical of the Repub Congress and other Bush supporters, but when it comes to Bush, he is still singing his praises and is contemptuous of anyone who dares criticize the Bush White House such as David Kuo.

Dobson displayed a great deal of faulty twisted reasoning and illogical justification for his right wing politics.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:14 PM
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22. knockin down another straw man--they're good at that n/t
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