College Republicans offer whites-only scholarship out of protest..

[Wetzelbill]

It's instances like these that make me stop and think about my position on gender and race issues. I mean, now I see the socioeconomic repression of young white male republicans who are able to attend a university that costs, according to their website, $44,272 per year for tuition, room, board and fees. Presumably paid by their parents, of course. Surely not by them. But they are right though. Poor things. I was raised on a reservation and had to give plasma twice a week just to get my first degree, but, you know, I sympathize with their plight. WB

on edit: I give the exact figure from the website because the article is not specific. It just says 44,000, and my figure is not including books and supplies and other expenses.

Student group offers scholarship for whites only

BOSTON, Massachusetts (Reuters) -- A Boston University student group is offering a scholarship for white students to protest financial aid programs in the United States that select by ethnic background, university officials said on Tuesday.

The group, Boston University College Republicans, told campus publications the $250 Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship was intended as a statement and they had raised funds privately for the award, which does not have the backing of the university.

"We think giving out a scholarship based on any race is crazy," Joe Mroszczyk, president of the group, told the college's BU Today Web site.

Boston University Dean of Students Kenneth Elmore said he believed the move was misguided.

"Our goal is to try to increase diversity on the campus, and that usually means diversity from an ethnic and racial standpoint," Elmore said. "This scholarship does not further that goal."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/11/22/caucasian.scholarship.reut/

[RagingInMiami]

1. But whites already have Skull and Bones

[Why Syzygy]

2. $250?

That won't even buy lunches. What nerds.

[Deja Q]

8. I got a scholarship once that was $500.

Not by a pro-honky organization, mind you, but $500 wasn't much in 1992 either.

Still, $250 is weak on its own - and weaker today because of the cost of living.

I think the phrase "tokenism" can be applied to these college twits.

[BOSSHOG]

3. Aren't they cute

Trying to make a point, how nice. I'd be much more impressed if they headed en masse to the Army Recruiting Station or picked up trash on the side of the road, or take food to the homeless or pick produce in the Salinas Valley; or do something worthwhile with their worthless lives. They do spread those christian conservative values though.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. I understand the point they were trying to make

it is a poltically charged point, and one THEY believe hartily.

This is... that there is no need for others to have some advantagnes over them becuase they happen to be from a different gender and national orgin

As I told a puke one day who was trying to explain this to me, look when the country raeches that point where gender and race don't matter, then perhaps we can remove all these protections. But since we're not the marine corp. (he missed the refence, I had to explain it to him), we still need those protections.

Hopefully one day we can remove them... but I fear that day we will be also be able to rejoice for there will be no more Pukes in their current incarnation at least.

[Wetzelbill]

7. and you know, if they want a white scholarship

raised by private benefactors, fine, but don't go out and act like you're trying to make some kind of statement about fairness in the system. Low-income white students are eligible for plenty of scholarships and financial aid options, like set aside grants and so on. Also, Universities often have scholarships from different sources that benefit say students of a certain achievement who have a family legacy at the school so if one of these student's dad went to Boston U and the student has a 3.5 well then they can get that scholarship regardless of color. They simply have a faulty argument. I think a lot of these people are so greedy they hate the idea of somebody without their advantages getting a fair shot at competing with them.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

25. Well put

I am white and not rich, and went to university on scholarship based upon my grades. Sam Waterston, whose quote is my signature line, went to Yale on scholarship. There are plenty of scholarships for whites who need it. It makes sense to give scholarships to minorities, and I've never objected to them. What I do object to are people attending university and treating it like one 4 year long party, not attending classes, using their time to get drunk and pulling stupid stunts. Their space on the school rosters could be better used by someone who appreciates the opportunity university education affords.

[BlueCaliDem]

9. The ONLY point these ignorant college kids are making is: POLARIZATION.

The Whites against all Ethnic groups.

That's the point they're making; nothing more, nothing less.

Once again, the real face and future of Republics rears it's ugly head: the politics of "divide and conquer", "Suppression", "Fear triumphing Hope", "Rich v Poor"...Class warfare as the overall umbrella of these bigoted, hateful tactics of which this one is the latest, and fighting to maintain their "wins" in this class war.

These kids and their parents truly are the disease of American society, and shouldn't be tolerated no matter what seemingly "friendly" horse they come riding in on.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Nah I do understand and actually apreciate the point

they are trying to make... problem is we are not, as a society the Marines, where the only color that matters is green, and where you go up in rank to your own merit.

That is the part these kids are missing. We don't live in a meritocracy, but a plutocracy... I'd welcome that meritocracy, especially since many of these kids making the point would sink like rocks

;-)

[BlueCaliDem]

20. Ahh yes! I can see where that "appreciation" stems from and AGREE w/your point. :-D eom

[ComerPerro]

10. there is absolutely no excuse for what they are trying to do

hell, a group of College Rethugs did this a few years back, too. And the real irony of that? The president of that chapter was a minority student who received (and accepted and used) a scholarship that was rewarded to him based on his race.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. You have to realizxe though

irony is lost on them...

As I said above, the external point they are trying to make and I fully agree, is that the contry SHOULD be a meritocracy.

As I told that guy years back, bring it on. Why? Kids like him, in a meritocracy, will sink like rocks to the bottom

[ComerPerro]

21. honestly, I don't think that is their point

I honestly think that some of them believe they should be entitled to benifits because they are white, and I know some College Repigs here (where I live, not "here" as in DU) who are in fact quite racist...

[Deja Q]

15. Dunno, but we complain of education problems in America...

http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=146778

http://www-935.ibm.com/services/in/bcs/html/bcs_education.html

http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2005-04/sunflash.20050415.1.xml

You won't see much of this in America these days. Companies aren't nourishing and and giving back to America's communities. We're dead in their eyes.

I only know I see multiple points of view regarding education and won't take anybody's side. I've got my own education to work on. And even then I doubt any of us will be anything better than mal-wart clerks in the end.

[nam78_two]

5. .....

:eyes:

Poor widdle babies.....

[Kingshakabobo]

6. .

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[AIJ Alom]

11. KKK membership required ? Or is neo-Nazi ok ? n/t

[whistle]

14. Wow, do Young Republicans have a genetic test to determine whiteness?

[noamnety]

16. I posted some statistics in another thread

You'll have to wade through my minirant to get to them. :)

Statistics start after the "-------------------" in my post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2788785#2790623

[Marr]

17. Anything to get the po' folks fighting amongst themselves.

That's what Republicans are all about. They don't want Joe Sixpack to think about how bad Wall Street is reaming him every day, so they help him blame all his troubles on the 'all-powerful minorities'.

[Deja Q]

19. In other words, we're pawns.

:shrug:

[bluestateguy]

18. The College Republicans is an arm of the RNC

Therefore the RNC is sponsoring this scholarship, unless the party disavows this silly stunt.

[bobbolink]

22. And people like Couric and Russert wonder why the US is so polarized?

Do they ever read any of this stuff???

[Minnesota_Lib]

23. This is hardly an original idea. College Repubicans at various schools have been...

....doing the "whites only scholarship" shtick for years. Every few years it gets resurrected at a another university.....and it always garners nationwide publicity. The MSM evidently has a short memory.

Anyway, you'd think they could at least come up with something original to make their point of white victimhood (or whatever the hell their point is). :boring:

[Wetzelbill]

24. Always the victim bit

they thrive on having that giant monolith to fight against. Be it the liberal media, the homosexual agenda or in this case affirmitive action making white people(men) the new minority. Authoritarian Republicanism cannot exist without an enemy because they have no ideas and they cannot govern responsibly. It is very similar to all those GOP Cold Warrior's having to find a new enemy once the Cold War ended. Neoconservatives were lost until 9/11, well now authoritarian Republicans are lost after the election so they have to pull out all the victimhood again and try to accent the "enemy."

[Generic Other]

26. At UW the College Repubes sold "white only" cookies at a bake sale once

They nearly caused a riot. Quick, someone put chlorine in their gene pool!!

[Minnesota_Lib]

28. Yeah, I forgot about the bake sale. I guess even when they do manage an original idea....

..(or at least a variation on the same old stale one) it's still a very, very bad one. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Minnesota_Lib]

27. Spot on, my friend

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[Wetzelbill]

30. that isn't what Affirmitive Action is though

AA simply says that if two people of equal talent and abilities are up for, say the same job, then give the nod to the one from the disadvantaged group. That is with all things equal. The other aspect of it is that if someone has the talent and ability to go to school or to become something that they want, like a doctor, than they should have the opportunity to do so. That's it. It doesn't say that if this White A+ student applies for Medical school along with this Black C student and there is only one spot left, well, fuck the A student, the school has to take the minority.

It also applies to other groups not just based on color either. Such as male nurses. If a male and female of equal talent and ability are the two finalists for a single nursing job and the hiring could justifiably could go either way, well, AA says maybe the employer should give the nod to the man, who is a minority within that field.

The abuse of AA is basically a RW, and white male,perpetuated myth. It is and has been extremely successful, certainly not flawless, but it is nothing like how you described it as. In no way has it outlived it's original intent or usefulness and if you think it has, you might want to look at hiring practices on or near Indian Reservations for example, or the success of minority women, on pure merit, who have pursued higher education in the last few decades. I hope I am not coming off as combative, I'm not, however, these are issues that I, as a Blackfeet Indian and a serious student of these issues, have looked at and lived, so I know there is quite a bit of misconception about them.