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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:35 PM
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Rep. Trancredo: Bush wants US to merge with Mexico, Canada
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/24/tancredo-bush-merge-mexico/

Tancredo lashed out at the White House’s lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy.

“I know this is dramatic — or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic — but I’m telling you, that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American Union, it’s not something that just is written about by right-wing fringe kooks. It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it. …

The North American Union, the NAU. Catchy, isn't it?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:36 PM
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1. Wasn't that the point of Clinton's NAFTA proposal? n/t
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:52 PM
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7. NAFTA was supposed to be about trade, not a uniform legal code
and shared military defense of North America.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:18 PM
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16. NAFTA subverted the legal codes of all the member nations by making
it possible for the corporations to pick and choose which regulations they wanted to adhere to, if any, and to then sue the other nation under the provisions of the treaty.

So now in California for example, the state with the strictest environmental standards in the nation, trucks from Mexican companies with no emissions equipment, little or no safety equipment, no regulations regarding tire condition, braking systems, lights, etc., driven by under/unqualified operators, are free to roam.

Added bonus, when these deficiencies result in the inevitable death and destruction, the company that owns the truck, is shielded from civil redress by the treaty that allows them to operate in the first place. What a deal, thanks Bill.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:14 PM
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24. Yes, though the WTO which replaced GATT is an expansion
of that by many fold.

Bush is trying to set up an international free-trade zone cutting the US in half. along his NAFTA highway.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:53 PM
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20. The European Union started as a free trade zone, too n/t
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:53 PM
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31. That's why the French voted "no" on the EU Constitution, I believe
Stopped the idea of an EU nation-state dead in its tracks.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:37 PM
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2. Hey if we get Canada's healthcare system and cheaper drugs
And the metric system. I'm all for it.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:06 PM
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10. Ditto. Betcha that won't happen, however.
Except for the metric system. That's cheaper.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:01 PM
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23. Dont' forget the stronger beer!
And semi legal pot in Vancouver.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:38 PM
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3. At a basic level I don't see anything wrong with a union
But with Bush, Harper, and Calderon at the helm? Fuck that!

Although, Tancredo IS a "right-wing fringe kook" so...
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:20 PM
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27. Of course if that shit happens, all Americans will have to stop it...
and I'd rather have the other half of America agree with us on this one.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:46 PM
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30. whatever that means...
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:38 PM
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4. Will Tancredo promise to leave North America if this happens?
If so, I'm for it. We have enough racist fearmongerers here already.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:42 PM
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5. I know that I'm naive, idealistic and uninformed on some things...
...but wouldn't Canada and Mexico have something to say about being hemstitched to the You Ess of Ay?

And I'm damn sure it wouldn't be "Let's party, dude!"*
:wtf:


*with apologies to Jeff Spiccoli
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:46 PM
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6. I really hope that Tom "kill the mexicans" Tancredo runs....
... for prez and gets lots and lots of press... cause he's batshit crazy. The American people need to "see" the face of a true repuke. Oh, and I hope the press asks him "who" did the remodeling work on his house awhile back.
:rofl:

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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:04 PM
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8. It's a long time dream of corporate America & don't worry about healthcare

issues, because the key word here is "Union" and the Agreement will forbid one nation from forcing its healthcare, energy, education, and other social services legislation on any other member of the Union.
So, rich people will still be able to get their lawn manicured cheap, the Mrs. will have maids for the Big House, and users of labor forces would be able to legally exploit what we now call "wetbacks"...and the U.S. would NOT be obliged to offer them anything more than they're getting now. But even if corporate/rich interests have to give up a tiny bit, THEY will still be MUCH better off. Meantime, YOU and I will become gradually much WORSE off...higher prices for everything, more Police State actions etc..
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:04 PM
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9. Tancredo is an idiot
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:06 PM
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11. Agreed.
But is he speaking the truth?

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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:10 PM
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12. Yes. He certainly is. We ALREADY have the new (world) superhighway

that runs from Mexico to where is the terminus? Somewhere in Canada. It isn't complete yet, but it's being built in anticipation of corporate America's scheme to enrich themselves even more by lowering transportation costs at the expense of transportation workers.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:13 PM
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14. ummm ? where is this superhighway?
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:22 PM
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18. The NAFTA Superhighway
if you Google it you will find many links, though none official.
Right now it's like the Bigfoot of the New World Order.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:00 PM
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21. The first part of it is in Texas (Naturally)
Cleverly named the Trans Texas Corridor (TTC) This is in concert with Cintra, a big Spanish Corporation. Here's the link to the Texas BS-o-Rama

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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:12 PM
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13. Toward a North American Union Vol. 6, Issue 5

Full story here: http://www.augustreview.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=4&pid=14

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Conclusion

This paper does not pretend to give thorough or even complete coverage to such important and wide-ranging topics as discussed above. We have shown that the restructuring of the United States has been accomplished by a very small group of powerful elitists.

The Trilateral Commission plainly stated that it intended to create a New International Economic Order. We have followed their members from 1973 to the present, only to find that they are at the dead center of every critical policy and action that seeks to restructure the U.S.

Some critics will undoubtedly argue that involvement by members of the Trilateral Commission is merely incidental. However, the odds for their involvement at random is too large to be even remotely understandable; it would be like winning the lottery jackpot five times in a row, with the same numbers.

The credo of The August Review is "Follow the money, follow the power." In this view, the United States has literally been hijacked by less than 300 greedy and self-serving global elites who have little more than contempt for the citizens of the countries they would seek to dominate. According to Trilateralist Richard Gardner's viewpoint, this incremental takeover (rather than a frontal approach) has been wildly successful.

To again answer Lou Dobbs question, "Have our political elites gone mad?" -- No Lou, they are not "mad", nor are they ignorant. To look into the face of these global elites is to look into the face of unmitigated greed, avarice and treachery.

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Full story here: http://www.augustreview.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=4&pid=14
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:14 PM
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15. Alex Jones has been talking about this for years
the mainstream is just now starting to pick up on it
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:20 PM
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17. Tancredo...
...is a right-wing kook -- and one of the most bigoted, racist xenophobes in the country.
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Siyahamba Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:39 PM
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19. Actually, he's been throwing up more walls.
There are the trade conflicts like softwood lumber, not to mention requiring a passport for travel between the US and Canada or Mexico.
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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:01 PM
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22. Trancredo: "They will force us to learn French and listen to K.D. Lang! Oh the humanity!!!!"
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:18 PM
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25. Here's what's really sickening, IMO: NO prominent Democrats OR Republicans

will take a strong position against the NAU. What you will hear, and ALL you hear will be vaguely worded statements about how they will protect the interests of the American people before they would vote for NAU enabling legislation. Actually, I'd expect that the U.S. will use some kind of Commission to do the dirty work, so politicians from both parties will have cover against the voters finding out the truth.
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:19 PM
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26. Fast Track Authority: Where it all began...... READ THIS ARTICLE



Very informative article here: http://www.augustreview.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=4&pid=14

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Laying the Groundwork: Fast Track Authority

In Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, authority is granted to Congress "To regulate commerce with foreign nations." An end-run around this insurmountable obstacle would be to convince Congress to voluntarily turn over this power to the President. With such authority in hand, the President could freely negotiate treaties and other trade agreements with foreign nations, and then simply present them to Congress for a straight up or down vote, with no amendments possible. This again points out elite disdain for a Congress that is elected to be representative "of the people, by the people and for the people."

Congress clearly understood the risk of giving up this power to the President, as evidenced by the fact that they put an automatic expiration date on it. Since the expiration of the original Fast Track, there been a very contentious trail of Fast Track renewal efforts. In 1996, President Clinton utterly failed to re-secure Fast Track after a bitter debate in Congress. After another contentious struggle in 2001/2002, President Bush was able to renew Fast Track for himself in the Trade Act of 2002, just in time to negotiate the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) and insure its passage in 2005.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:37 PM
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28. Oversimplified, over hyped, over demonized fear mongering, imo.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:31 PM
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29. What would be in it for Canada? Really!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:57 PM
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32. Tancredo (wacko), Noory (Art BELL) (wacko), Jerome CORSI (Asshole)
*******QUOTE*******

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union to Replace USA?


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006

.... President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: ....


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006

.... A good reason Bush does not want to secure the border with Mexico may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap Far East goods into the heart of the U.S., all without the involvement of any U.S. union workers on the docks or in the trucks.

Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), and "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians." He is a frequent guest on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show. He will soon co-author a new book with Jim Gilchrist on the Minuteman Project.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15623

North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 19, 2006

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico. ....

http://www.wnd.com/news/archives.asp?AUTHOR_ID=246

Coming soon to U.S.: Mexican customs office


Monday, June 05, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- Kansas City is planning to allow the Mexican government to open a Mexican customs office in conjunction with the Kansas City SmartPort. This will be the first foreign customs facility allowed to operate on U.S. soil.

Southern border blurs for global trade


Thursday, June 01, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Texas segment of the NAFTA Super Corridor is moving rapidly toward approval. When built, the Trans-Texas Corridor, or TTC, will be a major super-highway with six lanes mo ...

Bush border policy linked to Carlyle deal?


Tuesday, May 23, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- In January 2004, the Carlyle Group put together a new team to begin investing in Mexico. The team consisted of Luis T鬬ez, who was then an executive vice president of Desc, one of Mexico's larges ...

Immigration reform spells death for GOP


Friday, May 19, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- To measure what exactly the Senate is doing in putting together a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill, we have to ask what is going to change after the bill is passed: No illegal immigrant currently in the United Stat ...

Border fence will never be built


Thursday, May 18, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Senate voted to approve the amendment submitted by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., to build a 370-mile section of triple-layered fence along the Mexican border. Now the Bush administration is trying to push this as a victory for conservative ...


http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?


....
• Corsi on Islam: "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion"

• Corsi on Catholicism: "Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press"

• Corsi on Muslims: "RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"

• Corsi on "John F*ing Commie Kerry": "After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?"

• Corsi on Senator "FAT HOG" Clinton: "Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?" ....

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