Donald Trump calls Condi a bitch

[CatWoman]

:rofl:

The Donald fires off on Rummy, Rice

Donald Trump sounded like he would fire Secretary of State Rice if he got the chance - calling her a "b----" last night during a speech in front of 8,000 people at the Javits Center.

Trump, star of "The Apprentice" and a frequent critic of the Bush administration, unleashed his anger at Rice and outgoing Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld during a keynote address at the Learning Annex Real Estate & Wealth Expo.

"Condoleezza Rice, she's a lovely woman, but I think she's a b----," Trump said to wild applause. "She goes around to other countries and other nations, negotiates with their leaders, comes back and nothing ever happens."

Sounding more like a presidential candidate than a real estate mogul, Trump then set his sights on Rumsfeld.

"You look at Rumsfeld and we spend $900 million a year, and arms and legs and lives are wasted," Trump said. "You look at all this and you ask what kind of government is this?"

Trump said he didn't attend last night's event to bash the White House, but added, "If you don't have smart people running the government, then good entrepreneurship will get you nowhere."

Trump's comments were met mainly with cheers, but not everyone in the audience agreed with The Donald's harsh assessment of Rice, whose spokesman could not be reached last night.

"It sounds like he's running for president," said Steve Felt, 39, of Maple Shade, N.J. "I was expecting the speech to be about how to get wealthy. I didn't expect a conservative like Trump to talk poorly about a conservative government."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/473126p-398096c.html

[spillthebeans]

1. conservative president lol

[Donnachaidh]

2. my GOD these people are so programmed?

Now *conservatives* cannot dissent a conservative government? Jeez louise!

[tpsbmam]

52. Trump isn't a conservative......

though he is a Republican. But he contributes across political lines, sometimes to quite liberal Democrats. Some of his political contributions include: DCCC ($20,000), Carolyn Mahoney (Dem, NY), Menendez (NJ), Charlie Rangel, Harold Ford, Patrick Kennedy, Frank Lautenberg, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, Tom Daschle, Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd, Bob Kerrey, George Mitchell, Jimmy Carter, John Kerry (Sen race), Dick Durbin, Harry Reid, Moynihan, and the DNC (more than he gave the Republicans at the same time).

Some ickier donations were to Shrub, McCain, Foley, Orrin Hatch, Lieberman, D'Amato, Lott, & Macaca Allen.

He's actually given almost $100,000 more to Dems than Rethugs over time.

http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Donald_Trump.php

[TankLV]

89. Well, I guess if I took money from lots of people, then filed for bankruptcy multiple times,

then got other people to give MILLIONS more, and then have the "loans" constantly rearragned to my benefit witout ever repaying a cent, then I could give millions to those I deem worthy too!

He's a con man at best - and us "little" people would never be given the breaks he has gotten.

He's scum - and I'm being kind....

[Deja Q]

3. Trump would be a good fit.

Not only bankrupt the economy as he did his own (twice) but still come out all nice and suave and the type to put more money into.

Okay, that's cool.

[LittleClarkie]

4. He's probably a fiscal conservative

I rather like fiscal conservatives.

[w4rma]

85. Let's just call Democrats "fiscal conservatives" & Republicans "fiscal liberals" and be done with it

The neo-cons/corporatists/neo-liberals/American Republicans are economic liberals everywhere in the world but the U.S. Let's just start calling them what they are: fiscal liberals and social conservatives.

And we should call ourselves fiscal conservatives and social liberals.

Because this is exactly the appropriate description.

neo-cons/neo-liberals want more 'freedom' in economics: less regulations, no minimum wage, no labor laws, no environmental protections

liberals/progressives/true conservatives want less 'freedom' in economics: more regulations, more wage and job protection, stronger and tougher labor laws, more protections for the environment.

So, Democrats should just grab the label and run with it. It's ours if we want it. It's the appropriate description.

[LittleClarkie]

86. What shall we do with the paleos then. But I suppose alot of them

no longer call themselves Republicans.

[w4rma]

91. I'd like to call them Democrats.

The ones that can get over their obsession with controlling the private lives of others and with forcing their own specific religious ideals onto everyone else could make great Democrats.

[KingFlorez]

5. Right on, Trump!

He pegged her right.

[Retired AF Dem]

60. There is at least a 1000 posts out there today saying how

we should not use words like nigger, bitch and so on. So it is ok to call a girl a bitch if we dont like her? God how I hate hippocrates.

[lukasahero]

63. Actually, the only concensus is on the "N" word - "B*tch" is just fine and dandy

with a lot of people here who would never consider using the N- or the F-words. But thank you for calling them on it.

[badgerpup]

84. It's very hard to find a politically correct...

pejorative term that everyone understands.
By definition a pejorative term isn't SUPPOSED to be polite.

Granted, 'bitch' is offensive...but when somebody is referred to as a 'bitch' or a 'sonofabitch' (I'm being as evenhanded as possible here) some people are offended and ticked off...
but EVERYBODY knows what it means.

Calling a woman a 'termagent' or a man a 'poltroon' may satisfy the demands of political correctness...but it will leave the majority of your listeners saying :wtf:

[KingFlorez]

70. The word is spelled "hypocrites"

[Retired AF Dem]

76. I kind of figured that you knew

how to spell it.

[Morgana LaFey]

74. No, it's not okay.

Thank you for asking.

Well, I'm only half right. It IS okay, apparently, with people who run the joint and obviously with a lot of people who mouth off here.

[TankLV]

90. Please help us out - I'm looking for a vile, vulgarity to describe this woman...

Being "nice" and "proper" dont' cut it.

But it must be vile and vulgar and insulting to HER, not "women" in general...

[bigriver]

6. Trump's an attention whore

He'll say whatever the papers want to print.

[Disturbed]

11. "Condoleezza Rice, she's a lovely woman, but

I think she's a b----,"

How can she be both, eh? Also, Trump displays his misogyny and a simplistic view of Ms Rice. Had he been as smart as he wants everyone to believe he would have called her incompetent and explained why she is so.

[bigriver]

14. He's just a punk

to try to analyse any further is futile.

[TheWatcher]

35. You posting something of substance is futile also

Why don't you go back to the other board and continue the Apocalyptic Circle Jerk of how all is lost, now that your party has finally lost the power it should have never been given?

Trump IS a punk, but your transparent posting style isn't much different.

[TahitiNut]

21. You mean the "liberal media"?

:eyes:

[bigriver]

28. Why the fuck are you defending Donald Fucking Trump?

If he said Hilary was a bitch, the paper would print it.

If he said Paris Hilton was a bitch the paper would print it too.

Anything Trump says is not news. Get the fuck over your oversensitive self.

[TahitiNut]

30. Why the fuck are you defending Condasleezy Fucking Rice?

Are you lost?

[bigriver]

31. I think Donald Trump is an assface.

Anybody who doesn't think so is a bitch.

[populistdriven]

45. well said!

:toast:

[stepnw1f]

67. The Guy You Agreed with Got Tombstoned...

:toast: :rofl:

[populistdriven]

88. lol! thats what happens when I don't read any of the other posts he made =)

I was like wait a minute why?

then I pulled up his history

:rofl:

[stepnw1f]

62. And I Think People Who Support the GOP

are bitches and whores

[CatWoman]

33. I love it when you talk like that

:hi:

:loveya:

[stepnw1f]

61. The Bush Admin Defender.... again

I think you are lost.

[TahitiNut]

65. He was. He's been shown the way home

(Cry me a 'bigriver'?) (Trolling the 'bigriver'?)


:rofl:

[stepnw1f]

66. It Was Just a Matter of Time.... (nt)

[MzNov]

7. Because Condi is incompetent and not qualified for her position,

she's a Bitch????

Trump is a serious douchebag, with no class at all. He needs to shut his pie hole. Gawd, what a pig.

[CatWoman]

8. whereas I'm no fan of Donald Trump

I tend to agree with him.

[smomfr]

17. Yea! And give the fucker a buzz cut.

[stanwyck]

20. I'm with you

Condi was incompetent as our National Security Advisor and has been nothing but a cheerleader whose loyalty remains to Bush instead of her country as Secretary of State. She's a nationalist - my president, right or wrong, with no regard for our Constitution.
But that doesn't make her a bitch. And he was wrong to call her that in front of an audience.
The man is crass.

[CatWoman]

25. Stanwyck, I must vehemently disagree

only a real bitch would go shoe shopping while thousands suffered in New Orleans during Katrina.

when confronted, she even unleashed her guards on the woman questioning why Rice was shopping while people were literally drowning and begging for rescue from their rooftops.

[stanwyck]

42. OK. That was cold

and unfortunately fed an ugly stereotype about women -- shoe shopping while people were dying. The Marie Antoinette syndrome. You have a point.
I'm sensitive to the "bitch" label, though. Because so many people apply it to Hillary - but when you ask them why, they really don't have a reason.
Odd that HIllary bears the brunt of behavior actually exhibited by rightwing women like Lynn Cheney, Condi, and Coulter.

[lukasahero]

64. As long as we call Shrub a bitch as well...

But people don't. They use it on women and women alone for the most part.

If people don't understand that this is a gender loaded slur yet, I'm afraid they never will.

[Morgana LaFey]

75. I've got a question for you

Would you approve of calling Rice by some racial slur? Or any other African American you disapproved of? Or let's say Latino-specific racial slurs for let's say Alberto Gonzalez because he's such a pig too?

Why or why not?

[CatWoman]

80. I've called Rice an Aunt Thomasina on several occasions

so have at it.

Ditto for Torquemada Gonzalez.

I call them like I see them, and I don't need any PC people telling "me" how to feel about incompetents and traitors.

My name is CatWoman, and I approve this message.

[mitchum]

82. I constantly refer to Rice as "Stephanie Fetchit"...

because it's very apt

[thereismore]

9. "negotiates with their leaders, comes back and nothing ever happens" -

isn't that the truth! She is totally ineffectual. Must be a bitch being Condi. Nothing to show for.

[Selatius]

10. If the Dems cancelled all Bush tax cuts on the top 1% of income earners, would he bitch at Dems?

Hey, I'm just asking. It's easy to rail somebody who is unpopular, but is it so easy if he were dealing with a Dem who generally felt the wealthy have a responsibility to the well-being of the poor?

[Dogmudgeon]

12. Donald Trump, a conservative? Not hardly!

Check out his history of public statements on government -- he's a liberal Democrat, was a liberal Democrat through the "Greed-Is-Good" 1980s, and has been consistently critical of Team Bush.

He says he's tried to stay out of the political "conversation", but even in his books, he promotes that gol-durn libbrul agenda.

So he's rich. As we've found out, income is no predictor of intelligence either way. I know that many DUers can't stand him, but better "one of us" than one of the neo-Vandals.

--p!

[blogslut]

40. Judging by Trump's political contributions

Looks like the man plays both sides:

http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Donald_Trump.php

[Selatius]

71. Hmm, Trump gave to Mark Foley and George "Macaca" Allen. Some fucking liberal, huh? n/t

[TahitiNut]

73. The only 'side' Trump is on is his own. Wealth for wealth's sake.

"How to become wealthy"?

The way the Donald did it was by being born to a very affluent father, a father who could afford to send "the Donald" to Whoreton Business School and then employ him and keep him out of the draft.

Sperm lottery.

Trump then displays his sole criteria for employing others: "Make *ME* wealthier!" In other words, his employees get compensated less than about 1/4th of what they're worth to "the Donald."

His "failing up" strategy in the 80s and 90s was propped up with government entitlements (taxpayer subsidies) in the form of special tax exemptions and contrived bankruptcies unavailable to any working person.

He's a product of privilege and entitlement. If he were born in a blue-collar family, he'd probably be a bartender ... and a drunk.

[partylessinOhio]

13. Oh, I love The Donald! Condoho is many things - a bi!ch being one of them.

[Chimichurri]

15. Conservative? I thought Trump was a democrat.

[Warpy]

16. I'd call her hard, uncaring and incompetent.

B*es generally manage to get things done, whether or not we like what they're doing.

Not so for Rice, which disqualifies her for the title.

[earth mom]

18. Woo Hoo! I LOVE IT!

About time more of the rich democrats in this country started speaking out against the criminals in D.C.!

Thank you Donald! :woohoo:

[AnnInLa]

19. Well, that should tell you something, when

WILD APPLAUSE, during a keynote address at the Learning Annex Real Estate & WEALTH Expo.

Seriously, do these people have any respect from anyone anymore?

[Vidar]

22. "A pox on both their houses."

[TheFarseer]

23. I've been saying Rice should be fired for a long time

She is clueless and has no aptitude for her job. No one outside the US has any respect for her and very few inside the US.

[Cha]

24. And condi the *i#c& was National

Security Advisor when 9/11 happened..only in the misbegotten bush regime would she get kicked upstairs.

[bumblebee1]

44. If C. Rice were a man,

she would have been gone a long time ago.

[tblue37]

58. Why? Incompetence has never been a disqualifier for

anyone in that administration, whether male or female. Loyalty and a willingness to cover up mistakes and crimes are the only qualifiers, and by those standards she is the ideal Bushbot.

[lukasahero]

69. You mean like Rumsfeld? Yeah, right.

:eyes:

[xchrom]

26. not always -- but sometimes i just LOVE the donald.

and this is one of those times.

and yes -- if reports of condi's snottyness are true -- then she's a bitch.

[B Calm]

27. Conservative government.. He's kidding. right?

[Odin2005]

29. He ripped * a new asshole in a BBC interview yesterday.

Christ, he almost sounded like a populist! :wow:

[JVS]

32. Wow

[Warren DeMontague]

34. Someone needs to deliver Steve Fucking Felt the memo that there's nothing "conservative"

about pissing away trillions of wars based on lies, running the deficit through the roof, and lining the pockets of your crony pals.

Unless Steve Felt is laboring under the common perception that "Conservative" means "Working to institute a Jesus-based Talbornagain Theocracy under which women will one day be prosecuted for taking the birth control pill", in which case this Administration passes with flying colors.

[Nicole]

36. Well this is a first.

I've never heard anyone refer to Condi as lovely in any way, shape or form. Until now.

[Imagevision]

37. Rice will be the repuke candidate to beat in 2008, by who? Gore, Hillary?, Obama??

neocons are pleased with her dedication and have decided to let her show her abilities.

[hsher]

38. Who says Trump is a conservative, Mr. Maple Shade?

What, you guys think no one with money can be liberal? Tell that to Bill Gates, George Soros, Andrew Carnegie, Jack Kennedy, and that incognito gala favorite, Mr. The List Goes On...

[bridgit]

39. that's the only 'truth talk' he's uttered since sitting in the freaking pentagon...

:spray:

[DemonFighterLives]

41. I don't care much for Trump

but he hit them right in the chops this time. Condi may be one, but actually saying it is not too professional of the boss man.

"Your Fired" b*tch and b*stard.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
:dem:

[Bucky]

43. That settles it: Donald Trump is not a gentleman.

I've called her many things--all of 'em bad--but I'd never call a woman a bitch. The Donald needs to wash his mouth out with soap and find a way to criticize this terrible regime without being a cad.

[Morgana LaFey]

77. Well, YOU are the hero of this thread, then

Bar none. No contest.

[eridani]

46. He's wrong--she isn't a bitch

If she were, she wouldn't be such a suck-up to power.

[Raine]

47. "I'll walk with the devil

if he's going my way" (at least as long as I can stomach him) so here's a :thumbsup: to Trump.

[The Backlash Cometh]

48. Condi is a big pretender. Everybody knows she has no substance

whatsoever. She is what George Bush wanted her to be. Obedient. And as such, no one can trust what comes out of her mouth.

[InvisibleTouch]

49. The nice thing about someone who's not in politics...

...is that he can tell it like it is, without softsoaping the comments or pulling his punches. I know it's not a popular opinion around here, but I've always kinda liked The Donald, and I'm a big fan of the show. Good for him, for speaking out!

[indepat]

50. Well at least the Donald was polite in also describing Madame Secretary as a lovely woman

:D

[In Truth We Trust]

51. "900 Million a year". More like One TRILLION on defense. The only thing the donald got right was the

bitch part.

[progressoid]

53. He's just jealous of her hair

[Nikki Stone1]

54. As much as I don't like Condi's foreign policy, calling her a "bitch" is just wrong

And from Donald Trump? Silver Spoon self promoter that he is?

Please.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

55. Agreed n/t

[GenDem]

56. You don't expect

"lovely woman" to be followed by "bitch", but anytime anyone in the media's radar puts out the negatives on the Bush cabal in a public forum it's all good. Thanks, Donald.

[lonestarnot]

57. Beaver's mak'n friends and going places! heh heh heh

[GETPLANING]

59. Steve Felt just assumes all rich people are conservatives.

If he is this shortsighted, all the wealth seminars in the world will not help him.

[Beelzebud]

68. Condy made it true when she went shoe shopping during Katrina.

[Morgana LaFey]

79. No, that's actually far worse than bitch

but ALSO not gender-specific: sociopath.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

72. "I was expecting a speech on how to get wealthy"

Another Repug looking for a get rich quick scheme. Sad.

[ecstatic]

78. Trump has been on my sh*t list ever since he pissed on Randal's victory

last season. The first black man to win the show and he asks him to share the title with a novice. LOL... But I digress...

Trump has said several racist things in the past, so forgive me if I'm not rushing to applaud him for calling a black woman a bitch. That being said, Condi is extremely incompetent and misguided. Yet, when you take it to the next level by calling a woman a bitch/ho/etc., please have a glaring example of why this is true, otherwise it's just sexist BS. His statement would have been acceptable had he just left the "lovely woman" and "bitch" parts out.

He was right on about Rumsfeld though!

[mitchum]

81. He's WRONG...

she is not a lovely woman

[CatWoman]

87. thank you!!!

:hi:

[MUSTANG_2004]

83. Who cares what Trump says?

He's an unethical, egotistical blow-hard.

[WindRavenX]

92. LOL, Trump has a way with words

:rofl: :rofl:

(and I agree with him)

[tinfoilinfor2005]

93. I KNOW I can be a bitch, and have been during a number of given

times and circumstances in my life. But I would like to think that I wouldn't go shoe shopping and symbolically give the finger to my country when thousands of americans were screaming and dying for help from their government and the top people in charge who represented them.

I think bitch is much too kind a word in this case. I would call her negligent, and certainly a derelict, since she was derelict in her appointed duties. But bitch?...nah. A bitch would have gone to NOLA and waded waist deep in the mud, saved the old lady in the wheelchair and the dehydrated baby, and then cold-cocked the asshole stealing the television with the pointed toe of her new Manolo's.