The whole damn thing started in Texas...TX Gop platform lays it all out.

[madfloridian]

The Bush agenda, the efforts to do away with the safety nets for the poor and elderly, the efforts to turn us into a Christian nation with no tolerance for others.

Ok, so I really don't blame all of Texas..after all I have kids and a grandkid who live there. But I blame those who knew what was up and did not do anything about it.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/texas_gop.htm

The Texas Republican Party Platform can be read as a blueprint for Bush administration policies, and reflects the values of Dominion Theology.

Dominionists believe the federal government should recede into the background. This would be achieved through massive tax cuts. Then the Church would assume responsibliltly for welfare and education. Tax cuts, Faith-based initiatives and school vouchers are the cornerstone of Bush administration domestic policies and recommended in the Texas GOP Platform. These policies are putting the U.S. on the path toward becoming what the Platform calls a "Christian" nation.

Democracy for Houston, an affiliate of DFA, has a video up with some of the more pertinent parts. They call it the Truthmobile, and it is in the early stages. More about it here.
http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/18643

The video is here. It is quite long with various interviews, but the pertinent parts about the TX Republican Party's platform start about 2 minutes in and end at about 7 minutes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4771365265625064891&hl=en

Truthmobile Live for October 23, 2006 presented by Democracy for Houston and hosted by Robb Zipp. This episode reveals the secrets behind ... all » the Texas Republican Party Platform that they don't want the public to know, an interview with Judge Bill Moody, a speech by David Van Os, and Robb's take on the Harris County Clerk and US House TX 7 races.

And more from Theocracy Watch, the first link above.

Tax Cuts, p. 17 - "The Party urges the IRS be abolished," and the following taxes eliminated: "income tax, inheritance tax, gift tax, capital gains, corporate income tax, payroll tax and property tax."

Deregulation - Adherents of Dominion Theology support deregulation of industry. They use terms such as "unfettered" or "unhampered" by regulation. The first three agencies listed in the above paragraph are all regulatory agencies. The Texas GOP Platform calls for business to be "unencumbered by excessive government regulation." (p.1, preamble)

Biblical Law - Dominion theology calls for a government based on Biblical Law, relying on the Ten Commandments as its guiding source. Therefore, posting of the Ten Commandments in public buildings has great symbolic value.

Preamble, p.1 - "We believe that the future of our country depends upon a strong and vibrant public sector unencumbered by excessive government regulation." ("Excessive government regulation" refers to protections for the environment, for workers, for consummers, and for investors.)

p.13 " ... gradually phase out Social Security tax for a system of "private pensions.."

p. 19 - Make President Bush's tax cuts permanent.

p.19: Privatize government services such as high-speed rail, sports stadiums, or space exploration.

Look at the ones espousing these theories who arose in our government from that state...well, ok, let's blame Florida also because Jeb is into all this stuff as well. He is just not as obvious.

[madfloridian]

1. Religious freedom, but only if it is the Christian religion.

P.4: Free Speech for Clergy - Clergy should not risk losing tax-empt status for political activity (See the Houses of Worship Political Speech Protection Act); (New York Times, A Bill Eases Vote Curb on Churches By David Kirkpatrick, June 8, 2004)

p.8: "We reclaim freedom of religious expression in public on government property, and freedom from governmental interference." (Just think about the implications of that)

p.8, Christian Nation: "The Republican Party of Texas affirms the United States of America is a Christian Nation ...

p. 8: Faith-Based opportunites should be increased.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/texas_gop.htm

[msongs]

6. will they pass out small pox infested blankets to heathens? that's how christians used to do it nt

[leftofthedial]

12. correction--only if it is a tiny rabid fringe of "christian" extremists

[madfloridian]

13. But they are the ones in power, and that makes all the difference.

They are not a fringe in my area.

[Subdivisions]

2. So what happens to us Agnostics and Atheists under their

system? Did they expect us to conform to the doctrine of something as far-fetched as an omniscient all-emcompassing being?

[madfloridian]

3. You are only a good person if you meet their criteria.

Our Southern Baptists here in our area were very supportive of the war, very protective of Georgie, and called those of us who disagreed traitors.

They even told some they were not good Christians.

[Cleita]

4. That's the idea. If they take over the purse strings we have

to become good Christians in their mold to get things we need. It's kind of like the madrassas. The only way poor kids in some moslem countries can learn to read and write is in these institutions where they are also brainwashed with the Koran and extreme fundamentalism.

[madfloridian]

9. When they need food they have to attend prayer services....

It is happening more and more here. I think we should just feed the hungry without obligations like that.

[Occulus]

10. I distinctly remember this being discussed here

that some homeless shelters- esp. those run by certain christian (sic) organizations- required prayer before food. If one opted out- one didn't get fed.

These people are frighteningly dangerous, and will not ever change their minds. Their attitude is set in stone, and only several years if not decades of clinical therapy combined with lengthy and very costly deprogramming techniques will ever help them. They do not want to be helped, because they are saved.

They only want to save the rest of us, but to do that, they 'know' they will have to force us. They cannot- cannot in any way- accept any other faith as valid. This is because all other faiths are 'of the devil' and, thus, worthy of eliminating.

Talking to them will not help. They will not listen to reason. You, in their minds, are tempting them, and their tightly-held religion states very clearly that temptation is 'of the devil' and must be eliminated, not merely avoided.

The Dominionist types are, as I said, frighteningly dangerous. They are building a quiverful (search DU for more on that movement; I lost my donor status a couple nights ago so I can't search for the link- yet). There are more of them than you would be willing to believe exist, because they know were their view to be made public they would quickly be shouted down and discarded. To be clear: they are very, very smart about this. They are quiet. Their faith- such as it is- has had a couple thousand years to perfect the myriad ways a mind can become warped into believing anything at all. Conspiracy? Dominionism is the ultimate religious conspiracy against the public, and trust me, they see it in that exact way.

Unfortunately, they willingly accept that they will have to kill some unbelievers to achieve their ultimate goal: the institution of biblical (sic) rule on Earth, Mosaic law, and the rest of what's posted above this post. These people do not believe in the concept of secular, religiously-neutral democracy; they see our system as a rejection of 'God's will' and will do what they see as needful to rectify that situation.

Everything I've ever learned about Dominionism (also known as 'Christian Reconstructionism') frankly scares the shit out of me. It is against anything and everything this nation was founded upon, and the proponents of this mad idea very plainly do not care: they want their religion to rule, the christian Taliban in truth- and once they start they will not stop.

They haven't started yet. Hopefully, we can now build a framework that will deny them the opportunity to do so.

ed.: slight clarification

[Greyhound]

17. Zey haf veys of dealing vis scum like us...

we get a cell at the re-education camps.

[izzie]

5. It makes some peoples mouth water with this thought

The money in this country and the take over or getting as much as they can So any thing that runs to wards that seems to be in the air for these people. I still think Bush is the front guy for a lot of money/power crazy men who see life in their lane as how they should run this money machine called the USA. It is not so far out. People have taken over large counties in some what our times. Russia, Germany, Japan and China to name a few taken over by powerful groups who would do anything to take that power.

[madfloridian]

7. Here's the entire 2000 TX Republican platform in detail.

You can see it being put into play in DC.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/conventions/republican/features/platform.00/#47

When you read this about the military, remember they are talking about the Clinton administration.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/conventions/republican/features/platform.00/#48

"For nearly eight years this promising construction project has languished half-built, the old blueprint shelved and no new ones drawn.

The administration returned to the old rhetoric of managed trade — demanding government intervention from a Japanese government that needed less regulation in its sputtering economy, not more. On the verge of a foolish trade war, the administration backed down and dropped its quota demands.

After failing for years to make the case for free trade, the administration finally got around to seeking fast-track trade negotiating authority, but could persuade only one-fifth of Democratic members of Congress to follow its lead.

With China, the administration sought to link normal trade relations to human rights performance. Then it flip-flopped and dropped the linkage. They tried to bring China into the World Trade Organization as the Prime Minister of China visited the United States in 1999, but the political waters got choppy. So the administration reversed course again. Finally the administration turned to Republican leadership in the Congress to enact permanent normal trade relations with China.

The administration refused to fight for passage of the Caribbean Basin Initiative that was designed to extend the benefits of free trade to some of America’s poorest neighbors. Congressional Republicans did the job on their own. They also enacted the Africa Growth and Opportunity Act as a companion to CBI.

The failed leadership of the administration in international economics is exemplified by the humiliating debacle of the WTO meeting in Seattle — a conference the current administration first sponsored and then wrecked through its own indecision and inconsistency."

I wonder if any now would admit it would be good to go back in time to those 8 years.

[madfloridian]

8. Quotes Falwell on "no public schools", abstinence only, no early childhood programs.

This is so scary.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/texas_gop.htm

"pp.14 -17: Education
p.14: Supports school vouchers.

p.15: "We call for the abolition of the U.S. Department of Education and the prohibition of the transfer of any of its functions to any other federal agency."

When the Rev. Jerry Falwell was just creating the Moral Majority, he envisioned the future of this country:

"I hope to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we don't have public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them." (America Can Be Saved!, Sword of the Lord Publishers, Murfreesboro, Tenn. 1979, p. 52-53.)

p.15: Supports abstinence only sex education which is strongly supported by the Bush administration.

p.15:"The Party urges Congress to repeal government-sponsored programs that deal with early childhood development, and phase them out as soon as possible." (Programs like Headstart have been facing heavy cuts)."

[bobbie]

11. The whole damn thing started in Tx with JFK's murder, thx to LBJ and the CIA

With Texan Bush a major factor. The same people retain power today.

[Greyhound]

18. Yep, the decades pass and it is the same names over and over,

yet we let them roam free. They are the heirs of the industrialists that tried to carry out the military coup in the 30's. Unfortunately I don't see any Roosevelts, Longs, or Butlers anymore, merely a group of whores behind the 'for sale' sign in front of the congress.

[bobbie]

22. Isn't it amazing that no one went to jail for trying to kill FDR

And install a Hitler-style fascist regime in 1933? Coverup even then.

Hey greyhound, do you know of any evidence that Prescott Bush was part of the American Liberty League that tried to kill FDR? Or that he funded the American Liberty League?

He's not on Smedley Butler's lists of members, though I get the impression those lists have been altered.

[Greyhound]

26. No, as far as I know he was already promoting fascism in Europe.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he did, though.:kick:

[bobbie]

27. Thanks greyhound

...

[Greyhound]

29. Here's an on-line book that lays out the history of the BFEE

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm

Thanks to Imagevision for this link.

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. But it didn't even work in Texas.

I understand that Bush's programs were very much insulated against criticism when he was governor of Texas. That's the key to this whole mess. People kept mum and lied about the results of his programs there, and now. That what we call in the old country, propaganda, and that's what we need to ferret out and put an end to.

[Greyhound]

19. Really?

Where does Texas rank in the areas of health-care, education, religious tolerance, etc.?

Seems to be working pretty well to me.

[The Backlash Cometh]

21. When Bush was govenor, the point made here on DU was that

he was being groomed for the presidency and that his programs were not the successes that they were heralded to be. Are you telling me that wasn't true?

I might start a thread on this matter to gather more facts and opinions, because I think this is very relevant.

[Greyhound]

24. My point was just the opposite, Texas is at or near the bottom in the

nation in all these areas, as well as other things like the environment, and that is only in comparison to other states, we're ot even in the same league as the rest of the "first" world.

Yet somehow, most of the Texans we hear from think everything is just hunky-dory, and the rest of us should follow along.

[The Backlash Cometh]

25. Precisely. It's a shame, but maybe we need to put Texas under

the microscope and view it in a critical light before we allow it to set the pace for the rest of the nation.

[mc jazz]

15. unconvincing theocrats...

forget they can sneak into power but won't convince most people
I had this argument about Hitler my friend said he was so powerful, etc. Yes but he was only one man whose set of arguments was forced on the German people, ultimately this is unnatural because no-one wants it except a minority. They can write as many books as they want or even run the country it will do them no good. They don't see no dictatorship has ever lasted very long, history is littered with despotic rulers who inevitably crumble because they were never representative

[Greyhound]

20. Unfortunately, they have a tendency to leave millions of corpses in their wake. n/t

[GETPLANING]

16. Oh, it's way bigger than Texas

But Texas is a perfect example of what the privatizers are out to accomplish. Think about all the countries around the world where they are pushing this agenda. Chile, Mexico, Iraq, see a bigger picture forming?

[Morgana LaFey]

23. Extremely important

thanks.

[Greyhound]

28. K & R

:kick:

[lonestarnot]

30. PNAC started there?