It's hard for bush to admit defeat, so many thousands more must die.

[Philosoraptor]

Saving face, not saving private Ryan is what it's all about at this point, merely the inability to admit defeat or say 'we're sorry'.

A nation that is too prideful, and too arrogant to admit defeat or failure is a nation doomed, and all soldiers and civilians who die after America said it was done with bush's war, may as well die in vain for all bush and his buddies care.

We should swallow our foolish pride, admit it was a total disaster and is unwinnable, apologize and pull out and not let even one more young man or woman in our military die for nothing, which let's face it, is what is happening now.

[sarge43]

1. What do you mean "We"?

We've made it clear 7 Nov we want out of that hell hole. In fact, given the Three Card Monty played with votes in FL and OH, it's also evident we didn't want any of this in the first place.

So unless you're a member of the Bush cabal, don't say 'we'.

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. I won't apologize for something I didn't do

George W. Bush and his minions have a lot of apologizing to do, not the rest of us.

Never mind this "we" crap. I'd jump in front of a speeding train before I covered for these RW warmongers.