Bob Woodward = Stephen King (finally converting my Dad)

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My dad prides himself on being "moderate", never voting a straight ticket, blah, blah, blah. He has been horrified at my hard response to the 00 election onward - wasn't my reaction to "Mr. Bush" a little immoderate and unreasonable? Weren't my information sources biased?

Any book I gave him on the issues was "interesting", but he always questioned the source, thinking that the author was "out to get" Mr. Bush.

But then he read Woodward's latest "State of Denial" (well aware the Woodward's first 2 books were highly laudatory to the administration) From his reaction, you'd think it was a horror tale "that book it terrifying!" "I'm only a 1/3 of the way through, and it's really scary".

"That Rumsfeld" (shakes head)

He's finally woken up, after a 6 year, MSM-induced snooze.

[CrispyQ]

1. For your sake, for all of our sakes, I hope so.

My rw mother would call Woodward a turncoat & disregard anything he says. I was delusional thinking she was making progress. Some recent comments show that her head is planted just as firmly as ever, in the dark place it's resided for the last 15 years.

She too, wonders with dismay at the vehemence directed toward bush. I reminded her of the witch hunt for a president that lied about a consensual sex act & asked how could she reconcile that with lying about taking the country to war. I got no answer.

I've put a nix on any political talk or exchanges. It was just too damned frustrating. I would take time to put my thoughts in order & provide links & sources. She would respond with 3 second right wing sound bites. She puts no effort into the presentation of her views. I think she is so thoroughly brainwashed she doesn't even think them through - she blindly accepts what faux news tells her.

She is willfully ignorant & intellectually lazy. We hardly have a thing to talk about, anymore. It's painful to be around her, to listen to her.

[never cry wolf]

5. I can't even mention anything political to my mom

Sweet lady but lifelong repuke and current rush dittohead. Her Idol is Spiro T. Agnew.

:puke:

[Joe Chi Minh]

2. Seriously, can you imagine one serious Republican (the wordly-wise,

self-centred, and able to afford to vote Republican financially) voting a split ticket? It would never happen. Nobody needs to tell them how to vote. They act as one, without prompting, and bipartisanship is not on their agenda ever. (It's the same in the UK). That would have been the case even when there were such decent souls as Eisenhower in their party.

[morgan2]

3. Being a political moderate under Bush

is just unacceptable. Like him or hate him, at least have an opinion. Anyone preaching moderation under a radical government isn't paying attention or is an intellectual coward. I don't mean any offense to your dad, my mom is the same way. Moderation between conflicting ideas is the worst of both worlds.

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4. I think it's a pre-"Republican Revolution" way of thinking

Maybe I used to be blind, but it never seemed quite as "us or them" cut throat before. No K Street Projects, where anyone of the "wrong party" would doom a lobbying group. I think his head is in a different time, one that may never have existed. He finds voting a straight ticket appalling.

He got turned off politics after attending a meeting in Philadelphia, where it's incredibly corrupt (what happens when only one party has any power - in this case - the Democrats) I tried to tell him that DC has gotten to be just like Philadelphia, with corruption run amok because there's too much power in one party's hands, and he NEEDED to vote straight Dem to add some balance in Congress, but no, he just couldn't do it (plus, he had to be sure everyone he votes for is "pro-life"). Fortunately, a Dem squeaked in to represent his district in Congress.

[Robbien]

6. Yes, my extended family is stuck in that

Pre-Republican Revolution (PRR) frame of mind.

It takes a lot to get one of these PRRs to wake up.