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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:59 PM
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"Anatomy of a Civil War" (Iraq) by Nir Rosen -- this is a MUST READ!
Anatomy of a Civil War -- Iraq’s descent into chaos

Nir Rosen

(excerpt)

After the 2003 invasion, the country’s majority Shia, radicalized by three decades of persecution and poverty under Saddam and suspicious of the American occupiers, responded quickly to the clerics’ incitements. Followers of Muqtada al Sadr capitalized on his father’s network of mosques and clerics to seize control of Shia Baghdad and much of the southern part of Iraq. They occupied hospitals, Baath Party headquarters, and government warehouses and gave themselves state power. The same pattern repeated itself in much of Iraq.

When Baghdad fell, on April 9, 2003, and widespread violence erupted, the primary victims were Iraq’s Sunnis. For Shias, this was justice. “It is the beginning of the separation,” one Shia cleric told me with a smile in the spring of 2003. Saddam had used Sunni Islam to legitimize his power, building one large Sunni mosque in each Shia city in the south; these mosques were seized by Shias immediately after the regime collapsed. During the 1990s Saddam also used the donations that Shia pilgrims make to the shrines they visit—totaling millions of dollars a month—to finance his Faith Campaign, which spread Sunni practices in Iraq and even declared official tolerance of Wahhabis for the first time, perhaps because of their deep hatred of Shias. Wahhabism is an austere form of Sunni Islam, dominant in Saudi Arabia, that rejects all other interpretations and views Shias as apostates. Wahhabis had traveled up from Arabia in centuries past and sacked Shia shrines. Now Shias were terrified of a Wahhabi threat. They feared that Wahhabis would poison the food distributed to pilgrims. According to a cleric in Najaf, Sheikh Heidar al Mimar, “There were no Sunnis in Najaf before the 1991 intifada, but Saddam brought Wahhabis to the Shia provinces in order to control the Shia. These Wahhabis were very bad with us, and all Shia were afraid of them.” Again and again I heard Iraq’s Shias refer to all Sunnis as Wahhabis.

The Shia wave that swept Iraq in the wake of the American attack overthrew the Sunni-led order imposed on Iraq for centuries—by the Ottomans and by the British. The uprising was guided largely by Shia leaders who under Saddam had been pushed underground or into exile and whose sectarian identity had been strengthened as a result.

On April 7 Ayatollah Sayyid Kadhim al Haeri, a cleric from Karbala who had been in exile in Iran since 1973, sent a letter to Najaf appointing Muqtada as his deputy and representative in Iraq. Haeri also urged Iraqis to kill all Baathists to prevent them from taking over again. On April 18, in the southern city of Kut, Abdel Aziz al Hakim, brother of the Shia opposition leader Muhammad Bakr al Hakim and leader of the 10,000-strong Iran-supported Badr Brigade militia, proclaimed that Iraq’s majority Shia hoped for an Islamic government. That same day, Muqtada’s deputy for Baghdad warned that Shias would not accept a democracy that would obstruct their sovereignty.

(end excerpt)

(Originally published in the November/December 2006 issue of Boston Review)


This is a very long, but VERY informative and eye-opening piece. Imho, it is absolutely essential reading if one wants to have a clear understanding of the sectarian and political conflict going on now in Iraq, and its roots in past and recent history. Nir Rosen (who speaks Arabic) is reporting from on the ground in Iraq, with local informants and first hand experience of events as they unfolded.

I cannot urge strongly enough that this article is really, truly a must-read!

sw
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 02:25 PM
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1. An evil plan indeed.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 06:11 PM
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2. Darn it! I really wanted more people to see this!
This article is 3 1/2 years-worth of in-depth reporting and analysis all in one convenient package. I had hoped more DUers would be interested in educating themselves on just what exactly is going on in the Iraq civil war.

Don't people want to know more? :shrug:

sw
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:52 PM
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5. Kicking ... (and screaming) per usual ...
Thanks for posting.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:00 PM
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6. Kicking and screaming -- exactly! The only sane response to all the insanity!
Anyway, thanks very much for the kick!

sw
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 10:13 AM
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26. The truth will set us free ...
(I hope)

:hi:
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 06:40 PM
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3. I sent it on to the two newsgroups I belong to but I'll K & R here. n/t
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 06:51 PM
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4. Thank you! Much appreciated!
Whining works! ;)

sw
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:17 PM
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7. More excerpts from the article:
Edited on Sat Nov-25-06 08:18 PM by scarletwoman


Rather than remaking the Middle East, the Iraq war has destabilized it. Sunnis throughout the region who already have so many reasons to hate the United States—Abu Ghraib, the Haditha massacre, the rape and murder of an Iraqi girl, Guantánamo—would now have one more, for the Americans would have handed Iraq over to the Shias. We are seeing the death throes, not the birth pangs, of a new Middle East.

The Bush administration persists in its assertions of progress and clings to the idea that something called victory is possible. What victory? By every measure, life is worse for the Iraqis (leaving aside the Kurds, who don’t want to be Iraqis anyway). They are dying by the dozens or the hundreds every day—nobody even knows how many, since the Anbar province and much of the south, and even much of Baghdad, are black holes, with no information coming out. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died violently since the war began, probably eclipsing the number of Saddam’s victims. The ministry of health was recently ordered again not to disclose the number of casualties. The United Nations’ torture expert has stated that torture in Iraq is now worse than it was under Saddam. Over 1.5 million Iraqis have fled their country, to Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, and in late 2006 one European official in Syria estimated that up to 3,000 Iraqis a day were fleeing into that country.

SCIRI’s calls for a Shia superstate have grown more strident, and Sunnis have made their own demands. Already in March 2006 Harith al Dhari reminded the rest of Iraqis that Sunnis had means of their own available: just as there was oil in the south, there was water in the center and the north, and it could be held off until “the barrel of water in the south was worth a barrel of oil,” or it could flood the south and drown it. More recently, maps have been circulating on Sunni Iraqi Web sites showing an enlarged Anbar province including Baghdad, Mosul, and the so-called Sunni Triangle in a large Sunni superstate. Iraqi comedians joke about different neighborhoods of Baghdad becoming their own republics. Iraq is dying, falling apart.

America did this to Iraq. We divided Iraqis. We set them at war with each other. The least we can do is stop killing them and leave Iraq.



sw
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:08 PM
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8. I read "In the Belly of the Green Bird" by Rosen...
Holy shit! The guy went everywhere, talked to everybody, and knows everything about the area.

If you think the whole thing is Shia vs. Sunni... well, no way. There's factions in Shia ready to blow the shit out of fellow Shia. Same with Sunnis.

What total moron would involve the US in the goatfuck that is the religio/political landscape in the Middle East? Oh... yeah...
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:14 PM
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9. Yeah, that's why I wanted so badly for more people to read this.
"The guy went everywhere, talked to everybody, and knows everything about the area."


Thanks for posting!

sw
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:33 PM
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10. Kicking, but sadly...I don't think many will read it.
Edited on Sat Nov-25-06 09:34 PM by BeHereNow
I see so many pointless topics started here in GD these days...
You would THINK people would want to have a better
understanding of the FUBAR situtation that is Iraq.
Guess not, and I am also guessing this thread
will sink like a stone.
Sorry to say, it, but you know it's true SW.
Carry on none the less.
Thanks for posting such an excellent analysis.
BHN
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:43 PM
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11. Oh thank you, BHN! You're such a dear!
I must not be as cynical as I think I am. I still post stuff here that I think will be really useful for honest seekers of truth -- even though almost every time, my posts are drowned in a sea of daily trivia. But I keep thinking that SOMEONE is going to see how valuable the information is and respond to it.

And when it comes right down to it, even if there's only a very few "someones", at least I've reached those few. So I guess it's worth it after all.

I'm so glad you found this thread! Thank you so much -- as ever -- for your support!

:loveya:
sw
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:47 PM
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12. Kick n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:54 PM
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13. reading now, thank you
K&R
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:56 PM
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14. My thanks to you! (nt)
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:30 PM
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15. good stuff
opened a can of worms didn't we?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:34 PM
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16. "opened a can of worms didn't we?" Most definitely!
Hey, big welcome to DU! :hi:

And thank you for posting!

sw
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:57 PM
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17. thanks for the welcome and the info
I guess we all need to go fishing, what with all those worms and whatnot-who knows what we'll catch.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:04 PM
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18. Well, I'd like to catch some war criminals -- like bush, cheney, et al... (nt)
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:12 PM
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19. thats my game as well n/t
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:19 AM
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27. Hi flying rabbit!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:20 AM
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20. KICK
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:26 AM
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21. Scarletwoman is correct... YOU MUST READ....
If you care to understand even a little bit of the complexity of the situation you need read this article.

We are at a critical point in Iraq and our leaders know it... Darth Cheney is scrambling to meet with old friends in Saudi Arabia and bushit is heading to Jordan next week to meet with Maliki.

Thanks Scarletwoman for the post....the article confirms what so many of us already knew... we have lost our war and started a civil war.

K & R
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:57 AM
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23. Thank you so much! I really appreciate the positive feedback! (nt)
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:32 AM
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22. Thanks for posting. K&R. ....n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:11 AM
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24. I read that Busholini did not know of Sunnis or Shiites.
He was informed and was puzzled that the two groups would fight each other.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:50 AM
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25. K & R
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:42 AM
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28. K & R thanks for posting. nt
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:24 PM
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29. Kicking, 'Cause it MATTERS
READ it folks, so you know more about ,that which you discuss.
BHN
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:46 PM
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35. Bless you, BHN! Thank you so much!
I SOOOO appreciate your help and support!

:loveya:
sw
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:26 PM
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30. this is excellent sw!
thank you!

:hi:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:48 PM
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31. Can of worms, no. A barrel full of scorpions, yes.
Iraq was once Babylon.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 07:03 PM
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38. remember before the invasion
all of the warnings of opening a "Pandora's Box"? Oy! If only they had listened.

:(
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:47 PM
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36. Thank YOU for posting here!
I'm delighted that you found this thread, and REALLY appreciative that you've posted on it!

sw
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:02 PM
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32. Excellent excellent article. If we had a news media
This is what they would be talking about...what is going on in Iraq and why, instead of the endless stupidity of whether 'we' can 'win' this 'war'.


Thank you for posting.

On a related note, we don't know what the hell we are doing there, do we?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:51 PM
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37. In another thread, I've repeatedly asked a pro-occupation poster WHY we should be in Iraq...
He won't give a straight answer -- just says we have "enemies" there that we must defeat! It's absurd. We only have enemies because we have our military in a place where we don't belong and have no legitimate reason for staying.

sw
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:36 PM
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41. Agreed....
Firstly... we had no right to do what we did by attacking Iraq and...

Secondly...since we did it...looking back.. we would have been much better off taking out Saddam... and just leave allowing the power struggle to play out. Because that is all we can do now. Pull back and get out of the way until it is over. As Nir said... the U.S. is basically just another militia to deal with and is making the situation worse by being there.


But.. we didn't allow the power struggle to work itself out and have needlessly put our soldiers in harms way trying to put a western style democracy in place. Now we are trying to "exit with honor"... something that can't be achieved anymore. This administration screwed up and it is way to late to fix the "bridges" that we have burned.

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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:18 PM
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33. It is long......however, it is what every representative should read...
Our fearless leader would be wise to read this column. It informs you of how complex and determined these people are. Who is connected to who and why...He should do a documentary based on what he has witnessed. I read the article last night and watched all the so called experts, reporters, retired generals and politicians on the Sunday political shows and you know what... I think I understand more than they do now, thanks to getting a glimpse of "the other-side" by Nir Rosen.

Kicked because his message is so important...
:applause:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:44 PM
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34. Thank you so much! I'm so happy that you and others see this as important!
Knowledge is power. If we are to argue intelligently against the Iraq occupation, we need all the high-caliber ammo we can get. This piece is a bunker-buster for sure.

sw
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:18 PM
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39. Excellent read. I highly recommend printing it out and curling up with it
Not good night time story for your kids, of course, but this is definitely worth studying.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:28 PM
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40. Thanks for that
We might ask ourselves how do the 70,000 mercenaries function in this melee? What exactly are they doing?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:13 PM
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42. I will bookmark this and bring it back for the Mon. crowd.
The Iraq situation is complex. This article delves into just how complex it really is.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:30 PM
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43. Waaaaaaay too long for 'Murikans....
.. too many big words.... filled with complexities!!

Can this be made into some kind of comic book for White House consumption?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:05 AM
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44. Kicking because its so important
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:24 AM
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45. Forward this to your
Senators and Representatives!
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:37 PM
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46. K n/t
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:13 PM
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47. Back for a Monday night KICK! ALSO-Rosen on Democracy Now today...
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 08:15 PM by BeHereNow
Check the Nir Rosen interview with Amy Goodman today... (11/27)
YES!
http://democracynow.org

You can listen or view the interview by clicking the link to
today's broadcast.

It too, is a MUST.

BHN
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:22 PM
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48. Thank you again! I just checked back on this thread because of another thread
about the Democracy Now! interview. I really appreciate your kicking this up again!

sw
:loveya:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:25 PM
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49. You know I got your back, SISTAH!
Have you listened to the interview yet?
It's GREAT!
I wish there was a way to get it to the troops...
I honestly think they would just walk away
if they heard it.
BHN:loveya: :hug:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:34 PM
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50. *sigh* I'm on dialup -- real slow out in the boonies rural dialup. It takes way too long
to download any audio -- and video is out of the question. In other words, I won't hear the interview. I'll go read the transcript, though. :-)

Many thanks again,
sw
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:17 PM
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51. Kick! (n/t)
:kick:
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confuddled Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:41 PM
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52. Amazing! A "Must Read" that really is a "Must Read"!
Thank you for posting this. I had gotten so lost in the labyrinth of what's going on over there that I had given up trying to follow it. Being in total agreement with BHN's post (#10), I don't know why I pursued this but am glad I did. A very worthwhile post.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 05:29 PM
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53. I'm so glad you found this useful! (sorry I didn't find your post earlier)
I thought this article was truly outstanding and really wanted to share it with as many people as possible. Knowledge is power!

sw
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