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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:02 PM
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18 pound dog shot and killed
LEHIGH ACRES: A Lehigh Acres family has to deal with the loss of their dog, but this isn't your typical lost dog story. The family's neighbor shot and killed the 18 pound terrier.

He doesn't face any charges. The family who owns the dog will be cited.

Lori Haines named her fox terrier Maggie, but neighbors nicknamed her "Pogo."

"She was like a pogo stick," said Haines. "She jumps up and goes into their yard and plays with their dogs."

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=9932&z=3&p=



The reason I bring this up, I have a neighbor that threatened me with his pit bull. I said fine your dog comes on my property and I'll put a bullet in it's head. He called Animal Control on me & they informed me that I could not shoot hit dog on my property & I said "watch me" if you have a problem with that call the Sheriff's department. They did, the final outcome was my neighbor was charged with threating me with a pit bull (he didn't deny it), I have also filed charges against the Animal control Office for giving false information.

Don't get me wrong I love dog's but it is the owner's responsibility to keep them under control.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:06 PM
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1. Be a real shame if some of Mr Cash's property was destroyed...
actually, I could care less as long as it wasn't the cat(the poor animal shouldn't suffer just because its owner is a lowlife motherfucker)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:07 PM
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2. For self defense, this is justified
and that includes to defend your own house pet:

Cash told Lee County Animal Control he was protecting his cat

It goes without saying that opening fire on a dog would also be permissable to protect a child on the property as well.
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:08 PM
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3. Threatening someone with a pit bull
and shooting a tiny little dog that roams into your yard are two totally different things.

I mean, the guy justifies it by being afraid for his cat? Just seems like something is wrong in this case. 18 pounds? My dog weighs about 40 and he's not even a very big dog. I can't imagine that this dog presented any kind of a threat to anything.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:10 PM
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4. Moral of the story, some people shouldn't be allowed to own dog's
They are usually the reason for the demise of the animal.
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:15 PM
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5. Moral of the story
some people shouldn't be allowed to own guns. They are usually the reason for the demise of animals.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:17 PM
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6. Nice try.
:rofl:
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:24 PM
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10. Is there a problem?
Yes there is. An innocent dog was shot an killed. The guy was obviously an asshole. Your situation with the pit bull is a much different story. You were actually threatened.

This dog was just curious and eager to play by the sound of things.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:36 PM
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12. Actually, it was much better than nice
You may feel that the cocks-...assho-...uh...er...gentleman was justified in killing the dog, BUT the poster's rejoinder did take your formulation and decisively top it. Face it, codeblue did get you.
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:39 PM
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14. Thank you
I thought it was good as well.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:47 PM
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20. So did I. Game. Set. Match.
You PUNKED him...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:23 PM
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9. A lot of terriers really HATE cats and they are pretty determined
They were bred to kill small critters. Some want to get back to their roots.

I love terriers, but one MUST keep them under control, which is difficult as they are very smart, creative and energetic dogs. They often take out cats.

An 18 pound terrier is not a 'tiny dog', it is a very efficient creature designed and bred to rid areas of vermin. They are often very territorial and aggressive.

And did I mention they were determined? I have seen them climb trees. A pal with a terrier put a very large rock in the hole the dog dug to get under the fence to visit the Rottweiler next door. The terrier worked at digging next to the rock filled tunnel, but the owner was not worried, as the dog was digging next to an 8x8 fence post set into three feet of concrete.

The dog kept digging and then dug slightly UNDER the big rock blocking the original tunnel. The big rock tumbled into the new, wider, lower hole, the terrier slipped through the old tunnel and laughed as he stuck his head back to neener-neener his owner.

They are amazingly capable animals. If they want to maim or kill, they can do it. If I had a terrier that jumped into my fenced yard, I would fear for any cat I had out there. Something would have to be done to keep the dog under control.
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:38 PM
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13. I certainly wouldnt shoot it
That's for sure. I might kick it.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:17 PM
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7.  A cat can whip an 18 pound dog any day of the week.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:24 PM
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11. I have seen terriers rip big tom cats to shreds
I love dogs, but never underestimate them. An 18 pound terrier is a fierce little powerhouse.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:22 PM
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8. It kind of sounds like the guy was a little eager to pull the trigger
I think he probably just overreacted because he is an asshole
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:53 PM
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15. More importantly, your neighbor's THREATS. Glad charges were filed
The "threats of bodily harm" can be misdemeanors, but "threats to kill" are terroristic threats. Bullies need to be SLAMMED with every legal recourse.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:13 PM
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16. our dogs are never lose.. either fenced or on a leash...
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:33 PM
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17. sorry, but this story stinks all the way through. the man just happened to be
carrying a gun when he went outside? he couldn't shoo the animal away? the officer "won't let anyone talk to the man?" who in the HELL does the officer think HE is? and by the way, many people who are concerned about their cats keep them indoors.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:49 PM
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18. The dog owner should have a good legal case against the shooter.
As a lawyer, I believe that the owner of the shot dog should have a very good chance of succeeding in a suit against the gun shooter. The shooter had no valid reason to shoot the dog and should have realized that shooting the dog would cause the woner to suffer significant emotional distress.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:13 PM
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19. Ever heard of a leash law? As a lawyer, I mean?
Emotional distress? Now, that's all well and good, but I believe you can not allow your dog to roam unleashed and get on other people's property.
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:05 AM
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21. Why arnt there leash laws for cats?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:53 AM
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22. I'm sure you realize (as a lawyer) that this is a state law issue.
How familiar are you with FL state law?

The first harmful action was committed by the dog owner. They failed to properly secure their dog and let it unlawfully trespass on the property of another. I'm not familiar with either the specific FL law or any precedents but, generally speaking, the engineer of the first harmful action bears the "blame" in these cases.

Does it make sense in this particular case? No. However, I don't believe the owner has a prayer of a case and I'd seriously question the attorney who would accept them as a client.
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