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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:17 PM
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I finally rented V for Vendetta... Oh, my that is a great movie....
I knew the gist of it.. but could you parallel that movie with today any better..
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:19 PM
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1. I want to buy the dvd ...I can't find it yet
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:25 PM
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2. I love it
The first time I saw it I wasn't a fan of the ending. It seemed too implausible for me.

The second time I watched it, I was able to appreciate the ending more.
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:32 PM
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3. I agree with you completely!
When my husband first rented the movie, I didn't really want to watch it. But it was awesome!

I totally loved it, and I've watched it several times since then. The more I've watched it--the better it seems to get. :)
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:34 PM
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4. Did you tear up or cry?
I was bawling at the end.
Duckie
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:23 PM
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9. No, I got those chills I get when something has more power than
most can feel.. It my goosebumb factor... Its been going off way too much lately. People are putting out really good things.. the videos, the songs, the thoughts.... Things that have power behind them.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:54 PM
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11. I was too. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:38 PM
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5. i LOVED it too. a funny. i always thought the mask was sick looking
as avatars. looked scary. after watching the movie i fell in love with the man and now the mask is just fine.

it was such a well made movie too. very good movies in so many ways. i have watched it only once a month ago... i think i will watch again tonight. i have been giving it to friends to watch and only got it back
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Boston Critic Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:38 PM
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6. Impressive adaptation of the graphic novel
I especially like the line about how people should fear their governments, governments should fear their people.

I find it interesting that two of the best films I've seen this year are set in post-apocalyptic England. "V for Vendetta" and the upcoming "Children of Men."
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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:39 PM
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7. I have watched
the movie several times, and yes, I tear up every time at the end of the movie.

:cry:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:09 PM
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8. you can buy the black capes and V masks on Ebay..>LINK> of demonstration in DC of V's..!!
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:33 PM
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10. A very timely film
I really like the portrayal of a totalitarian society...also I like the way it's set in the future but isn't techno-futuristic. It's one of my all-time favorites...
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 07:38 AM
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18. I love how the US has been driven into complete chaos and madness.
All because of the Iraq war...
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:58 PM
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12. I have watched it 8 times, the last time being on the 5th of November.
It is one of my favorite movies of all time. It was also interesting to see how one V, then up to 100 Vs, showed up in Washington to present their list of grievances.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:26 AM
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13. go to wikipedia
Look up V for Vendetta (movie) in Wiki, and they have TONS of info about the symbolism of V and 5 in the movie, including the fact that the first four notes of Beethoven's Fifth, which is played when V is having dinner with Natalie Portman, is actually Morse code for the letter "V", which of course is the Roman number for five.

I gotta watch it several times more to see what else I missed.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:35 AM
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15. And also "V" for "Verwirrung";
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 12:36 AM by Spider Jerusalem
From the Illuminatus! Trilogy, by Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson:

Every society actually passes through the five stages of Verwirrung, or chaos; Zweitracht, or discord; Unordnung, or confusion; Beamtenherrschaft, or bureaucracy; and Grummet, or aftermath. Sometimes, to make comparison with the exoteric Hegel-Marx system more pointed, the esoteric Illuminati system is defined as: Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis, Parenthesis, and Paralysis. The public Hegel-Marx triad is also called the tricycle, and the arcane latter two stages are called the bicycle; one of the first secrets revealed to every illuminatus Minore is “After the tricycle it comes always the bicycle.”

The first stage, Verwirrung or chaos, is the point from which all societies begin and to which they all return. It is, therefore, also the fundamental Thesis. The Illuminati associate this with Eris—with the Female Principle, yin, in general. Typical Aquarians who have manifested Verwirrung values are Charles Darwin, Lewis Carrol, James Joyce, Lord Byron

The second stage, Zweitracht, begins with the appearance of a ruling or governing class. This is the Antithesis of chaos, of course, and leads directly into discord when the servile class discovers that its interests are not the same as the interests of the ruling class. This correlates with Osiris, Jehovah, and all masculine deities. Naturally, a Zweitracht period is always replete with “internal contradictions,” and somebody like Karl Marx always arises to point them out. Zweitracht associates with 3 numerologically because 3 is the totally male number, because all-male Trinities (Brahma-Vishnu-Siva, Father-Son-Spirit, etc.) are invented in such ages, and because the discord always has a minimum of 3 vectors, not merely 2. Since all Illuminati with any academic leanings at all are encouraged to major in history, the tendency in most textbooks is not only to black out Verwirrung periods but to glorify Zweitracht periods as ages of Light and Progress.

The third stage, Unordnung or confusion, occurs when an attempt is made to restore balance or arrive at the Hegelian Synthesis. Typical Cancerians who exemplified Unordnung are Julius Caesar, Emma Goldman, Benjamin Peret, Vladimir Mayakofski, Henry David Thoreau, Durrutti, P-J Proudhon, Calvin Coolidge (who issued the classically muddled Cancerian statement “Be as revolutionary as science and as conservative as the multiplication table”)

The fourth stage, Beamtenherrschaft or bureaucracy, represents the Parentheses that occur when the Hegelian Synthesis does not succeed in reconciling the opposites. In Beamtenherrschaft ages there is ceaseless activity, all planned in advance, begun at the scheduled second, carefully supervised, scrupulously recorded— but inevitably finished late and poorly done. The burden of omniscience on the ruling class becomes virtually intolerable, and most flee into some form of schizophrenia or fantasy. Great towers, pyramids, moon shots, and similar marvels are accomplished at enormous cost while the underpinnings of social solidarity crumble entirely. Illuminati historians, of course, describe these ages as glowingly as Zweitracht epochs, for, although control is in the hands of homo neophobe types, there is at least a kind of regularity, order, and geometrical precision about everything, and the “messiness” of the barbaric Verwirrung ages and revolutionary Unordnung ages is absent.

Theoretically, an Age of Bureaucracy can last until a paper shortage develops, but, in practice, it never lasts longer than 73 permutations.
—WEISHAUPT, Königen, Kirchen and Dummheit

The fifth stage, Grummet or aftermath, represents the transition back to chaos. Bureaucracy chokes in its own paperwork; mind is at the end of its tether; in desperation, many begin to deny the logogram and follow the biogram. The age of Grummet begins with an upsurge of magicians, hoaxers, Yippies, Kabouters, shamans, clowns, and other Eristic forces. Charlie Parker, Antonin Artaud.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:10 AM
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21. got to love the DU screen name "Prisoner_Number_Six"
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:29 AM
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14. The book is better:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 01:24 AM
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16. did you hear they're making "The Watchmen" into a movie?
I'm concerned about how they're going to do justice to that masterpiece...
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 01:31 AM
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17. I don't think they can, really.
It MIGHT work as a well-done miniseries (if, say, HBO were doing it, and it was well-cast), but I can't see a movie doing it justice, even if it were 3 hours long.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:01 AM
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19. Love V! V Rocks!
Finally got hubby to watch it and he loved it too! :bounce:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:06 AM
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20. the surveillance cameras in London
I just saw on TV some footage of real surveillance cameras all over London now. It truly reminded me of V's world. :(
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