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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:35 PM
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We desperately NEED Al Gore as President. But do we DESERVE him?
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 12:39 PM by Tyler Durden
I must have watched my copy of "An Inconvenient Truth" at least 5 times since it arrived this week. I have come again to a conclusion I came to at the end of the Clinton Administration that gave me true hope for the future.

Al Gore is a genius, and his Presidency would SAVE the Nation.

We NOW have a second chance. Mr. Gore has started leaning toward re-running for President.

Mr. Gore can be the President as he should have been in the year 2000. This is essential to the survival of the Nation, and perhaps might PREVENT or cushion the coming economic collapse, and reverse, or at the least arrest the coming catastrophe of Global Warming.

I cannot see how anyone who calls themselves a Democrat or a Progressive cannot see how essential this is.

The Big Question Is: DO WE DESERVE HIM? Well, if we DON'T, maybe we can merit the grace of the universe to have Al Gore as President even though after our foolishness, sloth and greed, we do not truly deserve him.

I think it is time, now, to commence the Presidential Campaign of 2008. We must make the Conservatives look like the short-sighted and greed-mad people they truly are; we have the chance to make our voices heard now that the current administration no longer has any support for their suppression of dissent. In case anyone has not yet noticed, the recent election has rendered the concept of "First Amendment Zones" not only dead but ridiculously dead.

I will begin my efforts for the Presidential Campaign of 2008 NOW.

My First Step: I am arranging to show "An Inconvenient Truth" at a local Liberal leaning church, and will do so, weekly if they allow, even if no one comes, or until no one comes.

My Second Step: I have some involvement with the local Democratic Party, and will commence my Local Al Gore in 2008 effort through them.

This is a Blue State, despite local "Sportsmen for the latest Republican" people. If we can CONCENTRATE on saving the ship of state and make Global Warming history though true STATESMEN Like Al Gore, then perhaps we can worry later about things like Gun Control, which as I have said, is completely off of any agenda I will forward. If we start now, maybe we can even DESERVE to have President Albert Gore.

All are now free to make their "CALL CONGRESS NOW!" comparisons one last time.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:41 PM
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1. K&R n/t
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:43 PM
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2. You may have watched it five times...
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 12:45 PM by RestoreGore
But you certainly don't seem to have the gotten the real message of it. But to answer your question, NO, this country doesn't deserve him. Especially when sincere efforts like this movie to alert the world to a REAL CRISIS that requires us ALL to take action are only seen as a political ploy. If this movie moved you as you say it did, then sign up to learn the slideshow to spread the truth about what we must do to save this planet, or tell us what you intend to personally do to heed the call. He didn't make this movie as a campaign video, and actually, he was the same man in 2004 when everyone was on the Kerry bandwagon. We missed our chance, and now this man has come to a point in his life where he even transcends the corrupted Presidency of this country. The fate of our planet is now the number one issue and WE are the key to it. That is what he telling us through this movie.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:48 PM
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3. I do not see this as a political message.
I do see this as a call to arms on the Global Warming Issue, which is why I will be obtaining viewing venues for "An Inconvenient Truth." I will also be supporting local, statewide and national organizations dealing with Global Warming...

But my reaction was simply that someone this smart MUST be running things, NOT that he set this up to win office, or that we should use his powerful message for that purpose.

Does that clarify my thinking? Thanks.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:52 PM
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5. Calling for showings...
To tie them to a political campaign is not the intention of this movie. That is exactly the impression you gave. Thanks for clearing it up.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:58 PM
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7. No it just reminded me how smart the guy is.
The poster down the thread is right about some things: the social issues MUST be addressed, but I'm starting to worry just a little bit more about BREATHING, EATING, and NOT TREADING WATER. After those things are a shoe in, anything else is possible.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:23 AM
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21. I worry about that too...
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 09:23 AM by RestoreGore
That's why I am out here helping him with this instead of simply always expecting one man to do it for me. It is as if some see him as some sort of superhero with unearthly powers, and that is just unrealistic, and actually unfair to him. Al Gore as president (yes, as wonderful as that would be were we still living in Jefferson's time and not with the decrepid system we have now) is not going to stop the Arctic from melting at this point. That will have to be mitigated as best as can be before it gets any worse by ALL of us coming together on a global scale, with THIS country leading because the people DEMAND political action from THIS CONGRESS NOW.

Al Gore couldn't get anything done on this topic IN the beltway for THIRTY years as he related in that movie you watched five times... do you think he is just a bit exasperated about that and about the political process? I sure as hell would be. That is why WE now need to change that process, and frankly, if he can help us do that more effectively from out here, I am with him, because the issue takes precedence.

So of course, when people constantly clamor for him to once again enter that same system that hasn't changed since, it to me is as if they wish to relegate him to once again having to beat his head on the brick wall to make Washington DC listen, when he is doing a spectacular job out here as a statesman and private citizen to raise awareness where it must start before we see real progress... THE PEOPLE. We don't have the luxury of political fantasy right now is what I am saying if you are truly concerned about treading water.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:51 PM
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4. We are hardly worthy to walk on his planet... to think that the sanctions
that Clinton/Gore imposed on Iraq killed only a half-million people, mostly children....
The deregulation of telecommunications law signed by Mr. Bill paved the way for just a few corporate giants to own every media outlet,
the anti-welfare bill signed by clinton part of the war on the poor,
Clinton/Gore's support of Israel's occupation of Palestinian continues with more home demolitions, the destruction of farmland, increase in violence, fully supported to this day by Al Gore.


Oh lord have mercy on me, a working person, that i may be worthy to live my life under the all-wise, benevolent leadership of Al Gore, a founding member in the Democratic Leadership Council where your wise men (and i do mean men) tell us the wisdom of your ways... To stay away from Peaceniks, to give up on demanding abortion access for all women, to support war and militarism at home and abroad (better managed, of course, than the republicans) ... in your loving grace, almighty, grant me this mercy that i may live to serve Al Gore, and the wealthy folks who will bring his reign.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 12:56 PM
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6. Name your poison.
Pick your horse.

Quite frankly, I'm trying to see my 4 children live without treading water, or living under a freeway. I lived in a cemetary, but I really don't recommend it.

Name your man/woman. Pick someone SMART, and Pick someone who will actually get in, and Pick someone who will not let the country or the environment get flushed. CLINTON was in charge, not GORE.

So pick your horse.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 01:22 PM
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8. Rebellion is better than taking poison.
But i was inspired by your title, as if we are "unworthy" of Gore. Made me want to puke... or ralph. Again.

I do think Gore was supportive of these policies of the administration he was part , never heard otherwise. The only policy i heard him publicly criticize was against Clinton playing with Monica.

Gore did co-found the pro-war DLC.

The most important decision in a presidential campaign was picking a running mate. Gore choose Joe Lieberman. Joe Lieberman.

Poison indeed.

God help us.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:36 PM
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12. Better to live on your feet than die on your knees.
You strike me as one of those people who read "Catch 22" and never got the joke.

You still haven't named who you think can pull off keeping the nation from some sort of collapse.

And as far as Lieberman goes, I suppose YOU never learned anything either.

God help our children if you attitude becomes the norm. I decided not to lie down an die. What caused you to chose the "ALL I WANT OR GIVE ME CHAOS" route?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:52 AM
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18. Who can save this nation? I have the answer...

People who unite for economic justice, against wars of aggression, for people rule instead of corporate rule...

The answer is those who answer the call. We have work to do.

It is NOT professional politicians created by Madison Avenue, weaned on K street, ready to kill hundreds of thousands of people to satisfy their idea of keeping the American empire.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:54 AM
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19. If not Gore, then who?
Why not Gore if he's willing to go the distance on the environment? Why not Gore if he's willing to make the corporate bastards stop polluting? Why not Gore if he is actually for the people and not the corporate bloodsuckers?

That being said, let me also say that I well know the sordid underbelly that is politics and that's why I absolutely hate the DLC. However, I was under the impression that Gore had distanced himself from the DLC. Can you confirm or prove that Gore is still an active member of the DLC? Because the last person I want to see running are DLCers like Hillary or Obama. And God-if there is one-help us if Gore is more of the same. I sincerely hope he is not! What a rude awakening that would be.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:42 AM
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22. Because running as a Democrat now is seen as the status quo as well
Which is why 60% of Americans didn't even bother to vote in the midterms. People are not as satisfied with this system as some would have us believe, even after these midterms. The same system is still in place as it has been for the last four plus decades, and that unfortunately has touched both parties... so I wonder what everyone calling for him now would do if he REALLY decided to "let it rip" and ran outside the party system all together as his own free man?

I know what they would do for all of their support now... they would then call him a "spoiler" and much worse. However, if he ran as a Democrat in a system where Democrats would still take that corporate money, and don't move to really end this war and prevent a new one, and don't call for electronic voting machines to be totally taken out of this process, and do not impeach Bush and Cheney for their crimes, and only provide lip service to other issues, he would be seen as one of them. And in reality he would most certainly have to be one of them to do that, and that is simply not who he is.

It is so easy for others to tell him to run again when they don't have to be the ones dealing with the battle of conscience that I believe would be involved for him. I say, if he is ever going to entertain running for office again in this country, he should run as his own man apart from the ENTIRE status quo system unless that system changes within the next year.... think that is going to happen? Based on the fact that impeachment is off the table for them and Democrats are now talking about not wanting a fight with Bush, you tell me yes.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:58 AM
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20. See you when Global Warming "tips"
Your philosophy is very nice...IF we had 20 years to work on it.

We don't.

Unless you've got a revolution up your sleve you haven't told me about (the idea of which is not unacceptable to ME, but the way, as long as it doesn't involve anymore mass murder) then you're spinning your wheels.

Work with what you've got to save what you can.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:25 PM
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9. I *do* -- He should run just for ME alone!!
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 04:26 PM by IndyOp
I spent many, many hours this summer putting ads for "Inconvenient Truth" on cars around our local Farmer's Market -- I don't know if I had a direct effect, but that movie played for weeks in our little town. I will be purchasing several DVDs to give as gifts and to give to the local library and schools and to show to my own classes. (I teach psychology and I WILL work it in!).

I worked my ass off and donated big $$$$ (for me) to all kinds of candidates for the past election who could pave the way for Al. I even gave money to the DCCC when Al asked me to, and I HATE the DCCC ->
:wow:

Today, I went carbon negative! I got a brochure for my energy company's GoGreen project in the mail Wednesday and I signed up today. I will be saving the carbon emission equivalent to NOT driving a car for 1,500 miles EACH MONTH! (I think I drive my car 3,000 a YEAR).

I will also be installing a new front door and adding insulation to my attic this next month to save energy and planting at least 4 trees in my itty-bitty yard next Spring.

I DESERVE AL! We all do...

Right now I will continue to work for Al by cleaning up the incompetent election system in Indiana.

:kick:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:29 PM
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10. I would love for Gore to run again.
I don't care if we deserve him or not.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:34 PM
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11. Who in the fuck gets what they deserve?
Look, Gore's a great guy, and I like him now more than ever, but he's not a fucking god. He's married to one of the most obnoxious authoritarian censors (look up PMRC, young-uns) of the Twentieth Century, so something has to be wrong with him. Did we deserve six years of neocon bush administration? Come on.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:37 PM
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13. WE didn't deserve it...but it's kind of hard to figure....
How did we deserve better when we let Bush walk away with the election by Not Voting?

Not exactly the turnout of the century, was it?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:47 PM
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14. Again, who gets what they deserve?
Do you know why people don't vote? Are you sure that it's just because they're lazy or don't care? The problem is that, instead of learning WHY people don't vote, the right wing of our party decided to ignore them entirely and instead pursue the "moderate fence sitters" (read "conservatives"). They lost us three major elections with this strategy.

Now, I haven't done a scientific survey or anything, but I can tell you why many people don't vote. They don't feel like they are represented, and they don't think their vote matters. Address these two things, and voter attendance will jump up.
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:21 PM
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15. re-elect Gore
I've joined the draft gore group at www.draftgore.com

And I'll do whatever it takes to make him the Democratic nominee in 2008.

Well, okay I won't brake any laws etc as we are all honorable citizens but I'm volunteering to help out here in the Windy City.




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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:19 PM
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16. Just drinkin' in the positivity.
It's nice to see someone making a positive case for their candidate, not an attack against other candidates. I hope we all follow your example in the months to come.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:21 PM
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17. Good for you
If we lived near each other, I would join you :toast:
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