Kerry Rejects Yellow Tie; Opts for Blue One Instead

[smoogatz]

In a characteristically bold display of decision-making, John Kerry today selected a blue tie with a tasteful pattern of tiny, silver scottie dogs over a yellow tie festooned with small green diamonds. "It was a close call," Kerry said. "I felt that ultimately the blue tie, with its scottie dog motif, better reflected our national ideals of liberty, decency, cleanliness and doing the right thing. Plus, the yellow one was just too busy with a striped shirt." Kerry's dozen-or-so remaining supporters hailed the decision as "a bold display of decisive decision-making boldness of the sort we've come to expect from someone as bold and decisive as Senator Kerry."

UPDATE: In an apparent bid to appear more Kerry-like, Wes Clark was also seen today wearing a blue tie. Well, blue-green. But still. "Clark is nothing but a big, fat copycat," said a Kerry spokesman. "John Kerry was wearing blue ties years ago, when Clark was still mired in the whole red power-tie thing. The fact that Wes Clark has today shown himself in public in a blue tie is yet another indication that he has nothing bold or decisive to offer the American public in the way of neckwear decision-making."

[William769]

1. I don't know if I to should laugh or cry at this.

[JeffR]

2. I'd vote for him again, but

This is damn funny. K & R.

[Redstone]

3. That's not funny.

Redstone

[stepnw1f]

4. Another Kerry Slam (nt)

[philly_bob]

19. STILL another Kerry slam /nt

[Bucky]

5. That's funny, but only if you don't make the same joke about my candidate.

Just kidding; this is pretty cute.

[Cocoa]

6. I don't get it

[Der Blaue Engel]

7. I don't even understand what this means

Let alone why it should be funny. Maybe I've missed the latest DU OCD?

[Richard Steele]

59. It's a promo for the new Fox "Neo-Daily Show" RW copycat coming in January.

[seabeyond]

8. boy, if this is your perception of kerry accomplishments last two years

what pathetic jokes you MUST have for all other democrats....

[City67]

9. Now thats funny

I wonder if they will ever be able to get their tongues out of their cheeks :-)

[newyawker99]

15. Hi City67!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[livvy]

10. Not only is it not particularly humorous, I find it disrespectful.

The man may not be perfect, and has made mistakes, but he deserves better than this.
Save the snark for more deserving candidates. It shouldn't be hard to find someone that is not one of our own, as imperfect as you may find him to be.
Just my opinion, and I'm sticking with it.

[Blue_In_AK]

23. You're not alone. n/t

[cwydro]

11. But you forgot that he chose the YELLOW one first

before he chose the blue.:rofl:

[KoKo]

12. Great Satire of what could have been an MSNBC Discussion by snarky

Alex Witt. :D

[fooj]

14. She aggravates the HELL out of me.

Alex Witt has her head so far up her ass she can't see the light of day.

[LittleClarkie]

27. Might I be pointed at the original thread that inspired this one

so I can see what the joke is supposed to be about?

[JanusAscending]

13. Get a LIFE!!!

or a CLUE, or Something !!! but get off this shit!!!, please! Not one of us here needs this crap!

[Kelly Rupert]

16. A++++ POINT ARRIVED QUICKLY FANTASTIC POSTER WOULD READ AGAIN

[tavalon]

45. Aarrgh!

I have clearly been ebaying too much lately. LOL

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Then Al Gore put on his Europe '72 shirt and gave them all the big fat Bozo Bus Finger.

[dogman]

18. Wow! Just Wow!

[wisteria]

20. What? This can't be for real. We thousands of Kerry supporters

know that he wears certain ties to death. He is to busy being a strong leader to worry so much about a tie.

This wasn't a joke was it? If it was, it sure sucked.

[selfdestructive]

21. on a side-note

howard dean was quoted as saying

"today im going to wear the blue tie, tomorrow the yellow tie, tuesdays the green tie, then wednesday we're going back to washington d.c. and ill be wearing the orange tie YAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

[Straight Shooter]

35. *cough* I love Howard Dean.

And your spur-of-the-moment joke is really cute. :D

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[nicknameless]

22. THIS IS *SATIRE*, POSTED IN RESPONSE TO ANOTHER THREAD.

If you missed the other thread, this OP probably seems confusing/annoying...

It's just a joke.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2986632

What confuses me is how the *other* thread made it to the Greatest page.

[seabeyond]

28. so the joke at kerry's expense is about a poster accusing kerry

of something he didnt do on a site that declares themselves liberals and have been bashing kerry since before 2004 election, everything i have read on that site about kerry has been negative.

ahhhhh... now it is all so very clear

[nicknameless]

31. What a perfect post ... for that other thread.

:eyes:

[LittleClarkie]

33. Why?

I'm really not seeing this thread is funny because of that other thead, or why the post you're replying to deserved an eye roll. It's true that Kerry is not one of Kos' favorite people, so the post is fairly true. Why does that get an eye roll?

The other thread is about an accusation that Kerry plagerized Clark. I didn't spend a ton of time over there, but I can only imagine there are several Kerry folks defending Kerry.

Is the joke of this thread to taunt those Kerry folks? In that case, I'm not sure why people thought that would be funny, unless they enjoyed watching people getting picked on in grade school.

[nicknameless]

36. The issue itself is a joke. ONE PERSON'S OPINION ON KOS.

That anyone feels compelled to argue over it -- on a second thread, no less -- is very deserving of an eye roll.

This OP is a parody of the other OP, whether or not you find it humorous.

If you need further explanation of why it was posted, you might want to ask the person who actually wrote it.

[seabeyond]

40. thank you clarkie... i dont get the connection nor the humor nor the parody

myself. just more wasted attack on democrat for no good reason.

[LittleClarkie]

47. Thinking about it, I sorta get it. But the satire was ruined with the meanspirited

"dozens of remaining supporters" bit. That was a definite jab. If our OP could have satired the stupid back and forth between the supporters of two different candidates without taking a gratuitous swipe at Kerry and us, it would have gone over better. So we respond, and others on the thread say "Look, that's what we were talking about." It's flamebaiting, at least to some extent.

If the point was that we don't need to fight amongst ourselves over stupid stuff, then the jab at us was a distraction from that. I would hope that was the point. But the swipe belayed that point, and actually perpetuated the fight. It boomeranged.

I'm all for not playing "Fight Club" this time around with the primaries. I'd hope others would agree. I'm not so sure many do though.

[seabeyond]

48. I'm all for not playing "Fight Club".... i always am. just who i am

i hve felt it is a determent for us to give the crushing blows to our candidate, aiding the repugs.... has never made sense to me. i personally can find the good in so many of our dems, i dont need to belittle one over the other. i think it is all a waste of time. but.... i didnt hear that is what the suggestion is in the op, that is for sure and obvious. i heard the exact opposite

[LittleClarkie]

49. I know. Wishful thinking.

I suppose I'm putting lipstick on a pig.

[karynnj]

43. I saw the Dkos post earlier

and, as you say, it has been responded to. It was one overboard poster.

It is entirely normal for people who are not far away from each other politicly to come up with similar sounding proposals - especially when described superficially. My guess is that Hart, Clark and Kerry (and likely others)all came to somewhat similar conclusions on dealing with terror even before 911. I also assume they even spoke to each other. Hart in writing the Hart/Rudman report likely spoke to Clark and to Kerry, who work on terrorism he praised this year when introducing him in Boston. I assume that Kerry in formulating his proposals in 2004 spoke to Hart and to Clark, who was a key advisor. It is probably not unlikely that Clark chose to speak to these two intelligent men - as well.

[LittleClarkie]

32. I'm still confused/annoyed

Okay, it's a joke. Eh. As one of those "dozen or so" supporters, I'm not amused.

[Cameron27]

24. Clark's my man

but that's damn funny!

ROFL!

[cwydro]

25. I love it when people get sucked into these threads

gettin' all righteous and stuff.:rofl:

[seabeyond]

30. right

[spillthebeans]

26. If you want to look agressive you wear red, if you want to emanate

neutrality you wear blue


When Bush gives a war ultimatum he wears innocent blue



When you declare war it's red



Hm ... interesting



whatever

[blondeatlast]

29. Smoog, I cyber-love you in a G-rated way,

:rofl:

[smoogatz]

34. Right back atcha, baby. n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

37. Am I missing something?

I don't see a slam against Kerry OR Clark. Pretty funny commentary about how people can get tied up in knots over silly little things. Oh shit, is that a pun?

[AtomicKitten]

38. Bravo.

Smoo gets it. He really gets it.

[mtnsnake]

39. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! You nailed it, smoogatz!

:yourock:

[Redneck Socialist]

41. Is it 2008 already?

Or is this a rerun from 2004?

The primaries are going to be so much fun. :-(

[dailykoff]

42. Let's all send Kerry state-themed ties for Christmas!

Really nice ones that he won't mind wearing. Preferably dark.

That's one way to get some decent neckwear on the guy!

[Clarkie1]

44. LOL...it's not about ties, it's about sweaters, don't you know?

The Argyle General
Maureen Dowd

Trying to soften his military image and lure more female voters in New Hampshire, Gen. Wesley Clark switched from navy suits to argyle sweaters. It's an odd strategy. The best way to beat a doctor is not to look like a pharmacist.

<snip>

On Thursday, eight reporters and three minicams trailed the general as he sweater-shopped at L.L. Bean in Concord, N.H. Chris Suellentrop filed a fashion dispatch in Slate that the Democratic candidate tried on "a plain, green, wool crew neck sweater."

<snip>

Al Gore sprouted earth tones in 2000, hoping heathery brown sweaters and khakis would warm him up.

During her Senate campaign, Hillary Clinton emulated Barbara Walters and began tying a sweater around her neck, over suits, to look softer and more feminine.

Sometimes sweaters can do the trick, and sometimes they can't.

Dan Rather, who had been perceived as colder than his predecessor, Walter Cronkite, suddenly got better ratings in 1982 and pulled into first place when he started wearing gray and maroon sweater vests under a sport coat to deliver the news. The Washington Post TV critic Tom Shales hailed Rather's "trust-me, you've-got-a-friend, hello-out-there-in-television-land" aura.

But Jimmy Carter learned how clothes, like rabbits, can viciously turn on you after he gave an energy conservation fireside chat in a gray cardigan. Americans who had embraced Carter's populist polyester blend suits railed against the cardigan, associating it with malaise and economic pain.

I asked Dan Rather about Wesley Clark's sweater strategy.

"It makes a difference what kind of sweater you wear," he replied. "Some sweaters went out of style about the time spats did. You don't want to pick one of those."

http://www.fcnp.com/345/feat1.htm

[ecstatic]

46. LOL! For days I avoided clicking on this post...

from fear that it would be some sort of Kerry love-fest or something.

[ProSense]

50. This is hilarious!

You wear desperation well! Clark, Kerry ties! Score!

:rofl:

This is a lot funnier that the Kerry/Clark new war http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2986632&mesg_id=2986632">thingie

[smoogatz]

51. I may be desperate (about a lot of things), but at least my candidate's

not the the least likable person in American politics.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2816814&mesg_id=2816814

[LittleClarkie]

52. Like we care

And I'm pretty sure they didn't ask any of us.

So is Clark your guy?

Oh, and Kerry's not a candidate yet, and actually neither is Clark. Can we have a cease fire until they both announce?

[smoogatz]

54. I'll wait to see who's running before I decide who my candidate is.

And I'll make you a deal--give us a break with constant barrage of Kerry Nooz that Isn't, and I'll stop posting parody and negative stuff. Deal?

[LittleClarkie]

55. I will agree not to post rah rah threads. But the news is fair game, sorry.

Rah rah posts like "we need so and so" or "so and so is our only hope" followed by the minions who say he/she's great, he/she's the best and the like, those annoy the shit out of me. You won't catch me doing one of those for Kerry, unless I'M doing a parody.

At least if the post is wrapped around some news like a speech or something, it's valuable. And that goes for any candidates.

I don't understand why people in this thread didn't expect us to react to your OP, considering it's pretty clear there was a jab at us in there (a dozen or so leftover supporters my ass).

I'll try not to post the stupid shit about who said what first blah, blah. But if the dude makes a speech, or gets some legislation passed, or somesuch, I'm afraid you'll have to deal with me and mine saying something about it.

[smoogatz]

56. It's the daily press release spamming the greatest page

that annoys me (and others, judging from the response to this thread). The guy makes a speech every freaking day, doesn't he? It sure seems like it. But I appreciate your awareness on the rah-rah front. I guess we'll have to play it by ear.

And of course, I expected you guys to react--that's part of the fun of posting something like this. You guys jump on it and say "that's not funny." It's not flamebait, really--much gentler than that. Good-natured ribbing, with a hook in it.

[LittleClarkie]

57. And I bet y'all are hoping we'll stop if he decides not to run, too

Heh. You're stuck with us I'm afraid. It's not contingent on him running for prez. We just like the big lug. That feeling was only cemented when several of us met him at his birthday party last year. He surprised several of the Kerry group folks at the pub afterwards. I do believe several of us consider him an actual friend.

[smoogatz]

58. I wonder how many "greatest" votes I can get with Kerry's grocery list?

Or a report on the condition of his prostate? Time will tell.

[LittleClarkie]

60. (peter puma)Oh, two or three (/peter puma)

Careful that your "gentle ribbing" doesn't get interpreted as flamebait by the only judges that matter on the board -- the mods.

[smoogatz]

61. If it does, it does.

They pull 'em down, I write more. Or I go have a sandwich and enjoy the day, you know?

[LittleClarkie]

62. And what about the plethora of "Kerry's toast" threads

Are those not tedious as well? If those are newsworthy, I fail to see why coughing up a press release, which is after all what a press release is for, would not also be newsworthy.

[smoogatz]

63. Cough them up in the Kerry forum, where they belong--

and where you-all can admire them in peace and gentle harmony. But the daily, coordinated spamming of GD and the Greatest page is pretty annoying. I'm not the only one that thinks so, obviously.

[LittleClarkie]

65. Are the Clarkies and the Edwards people etc also to stay in their little ghettos as well

I think not. We'll all be out here posting our little bits. And if the mods feel it's too much, they'll make their feeling known.

Coordinated? Nah.

Annoyed? Ignore is your friend. That's what I do when I'm annoyed.

[smoogatz]

66. Fourteen of you is a lot to ignore.

But maybe you're right. It might be the answer. Though I'm already kind of working on that prostate report...and it's pretty funny!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

53. Yer post is why humor should never be tried at home.

& I aint no big Kerry fan.

[Radical Activist]

64. Kucinich was wearing the blue tie long ago, way before Kerry. n/t