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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:30 PM
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Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, and now Reaganism?
Lately I have heard many a "news-chicklette" or "Teleprompter-Ken" waxing nostalgic about St Ronnie and how we "just need to go back to the values that Reaganism espoused"...and everything will be all right.

Remember, folks.. the reagan papers have not seen the light of day yet, soi everything we have been told about him is as phony as was his presidency.

Reagan was an ACTOR..All his adult life he read lines that others wrote for him, he stood where they told him to stand, he went where they told him to go.

Reagan was a FIGUREHEAD..a kindly old Grandfatherly looking guy.

In truth, he had a terrible family relationship, and for most of his life, some of his kids didn't even speak to him. He was an adulterer (and rumor has it that "Mommy" was pregnant when they married as soon as his divorce was final).

He did NOT "win the cold war". he spent us into oblivion, and the USSR said.."hey that's enough, we're done"..and Afghanistan did them in too.. Mr Gorbacev did not need to be "told" to tear down that wall. By the time St Ronnie was blathering on about that, Mr Gorbacev had already "seen the light", and knew the USSR was done.

Having alzheimer's softened St Ronnie's landing, since no one dared to even try to unearth the slimy, stinking mess that GHW Bush had so carefully buried.Any time someone even hinted a underhanded things he did as president, they would immediately be castigated as being "mean to the poor old guy". (kind of a precursor to the whole patriot/not a patriot stuff we are enduring now)

And now we have, on the heels of the public thowing out the bums, the press eagerly jumping back into the Reagan-worship.

Resist the Reagasm....

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:36 PM
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1. I think he's a saint to RW World (Corp News), because he never
got indicted, and that's difficult for a high-ranking Republie. And he was shot, and the newsies do love their victims.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:45 PM
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2. And then there's the little deal
his minions made to trade arms for the Iran hostages who were miraculously freed five minutes after he took the oath of office.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:49 PM
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3. also Reagan was only the start of the post-Nixon "Republican rot". n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:54 PM
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4. The timing of his daughter's birth after his marriage isn't a rumor. It's a matter of public record.
Gorbachev did end the Cold War, but it was by trying to reform, not undo, Soviet communism. The real people who defeated the Soviet Union were Walt Disney, Levi Strauss, and Asa Candler. FWIW, Disney was a Reagan Republican.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:19 PM
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5. Has anyone noticed that Saint Ronnie's already too-polished-up image
has been getting a real buffing ever since the election ended?

The Republicans are in serious nostalgia mode...sad about their losses...longing for a return to the days when it was easy to put a Republican in the office on the basis of his public image and his widespread personal appeal alone.

They have convinced themselves that their problem is that they have no sunny, cheery figurehead to help them sell their current failed policies...they tell themselves, "If only we had another Reagan, we could sell these proles sh** and they'd be convinced it was caviar."

The truth is, they don't feel that their policies have failed at all. The only thing that failed, in their eyes, was the sales job. Why? Because they lacked an effective salesman. Georgie the Little Kid Playing Cowboy was OK for a while, but he eventually botched it. Like a nervous kid with stage fright in the school play, he forgot his lines, turned red and ran offstage, leaving the play in a shambles, the audience's sense of disbelief no longer suspended. Now, many of them are stampeding out of the theater, descending on the box office, demanding a refund on their tickets.

Ronnie, they tell themselves, would NEVER have done such a thing. Ronnie was a pro. Ronnie could take the worst B-movie script and deliver it as if it were Shakespeare. Ronnie could have SOLD that war in Iraq. Not only could he have sold it--could he have had the best and brightest young Americans eagerly lining up to go to war and die for Iraqi democracy--he could have sent the extras to Iran! And they would go, gladly! And their parents would send them off with a tear of pride and a swelling of the chest!

With Ronnie on stage, people thought it was morning in America even when it was midnight! Forget that Iran-contra thing, heh heh. Let me tell you this story about a letter I got from a grandmother in Des Moines...

Make no mistake. Even now, they are casting about, trying to figure out who they can make into their next Ronnie. Someone who need not have any more of the real, genuine merits to be president than Reagan did, no more of a family man, no more of a policy wonk. The image is all. If they can just find the right raw material to work with, they will fashion a new Ronnie: one they can sell to both Republicans, Democrats and the Great Undecided as Ronnie II, The Sequel. And they will get him in there for a full eight years if they can.

That's why, all of a sudden, the name "Reagan" is on every Republican's lips. He's the last taste of decisive presidential victory their party has ever known and a president even some people on the other side of the fence look back on fondly (because they too have sort of forgotten what he really did, and they themselves were doing well financially in the eighties, what the heck). The Bushes, both father and son, proved to be but pale pretenders to the Ronnie throne. But the Republicans will find themselves a worthy successor, one they can get elected and keep there...so that when HE takes away habeas corpus, tortures people, and sends young Americans off to their deaths overseas for a lost cause, we'll all just relax and enjoy it.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 07:12 PM
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6. That is an incredible post, BerryBush
No...it's not an incredible post. It's a world class essay.
Beautiful. Well done.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:05 PM
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12. Agreed
Of course Reagan was marketed as a right-wing FDR-style figurehead. Of course FDR mostly came about his reputation by his actions and not that much spinning and marketing.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 07:16 PM
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7. Agreed!!
Outstanding commentary! K&R
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:01 PM
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10. Timing is about right for the GOP high school grads of RayGun's era
to be falling into the nostalgia trap as they slither into their late thirties and forties.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:21 PM
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13. Think Matt Blunt..
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 11:22 PM by SoCalDem
:puke:..
Cookie cutter Stepfordesque guy..
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:02 PM
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11. dupe Pardon me. nt
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 11:02 PM by Ilsa
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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 07:17 PM
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8. I remember when Reagan got the govenorship of Calfornia
He shut down quite a few welfare offices. the poor and homeless really got it in the nose. Typical Republican values...if you don't have money you can go to hell.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:51 PM
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9. kick
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