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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 10:54 PM
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Rumsfeld authorized torture, says former Abu Ghraib commander
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1226033.php/Rumsfeld_authorized_torture_says_former_Abu_Ghraib_commander

Madrid - The former commander of Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq claimed outgoing US defence minister Donald Rumsfeld had personally authorized the use of torture against prisoners, an interview published in Spanish daily El Pais revealed Saturday.

'I saw a memorandum signed by Rumsfeld on the use of such interrogation methods,' Janis Karpinski told El Pais.

The techniques allegedly approved by Rumsfeld in the document included disruption of prisoners' sleep and mealtimes, forcing them to listen to loud music or to stand for long periods.

Rumsfeld and other of his former superiors described Karpinski as a 'coward,' accusing her of dereliction of duty. Yet she was not personally responsible for interrogating prisoners, she said.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:01 PM
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1. Stovepipe.
Wasn't that Wes Clark's term, shortly after the torture stories broke.

Reading the comments on the site, it's hard to believe how ignorant and pathetic some Americans still are, regarding this illegal attack that Bush perpetrated on Iraq.

It's all hitting the fan now. Karpinski mentioned children, and also mentioned being "vividly" threatened by the administration. But she won't stop. Neither will the rest of us.

Poor Rumsfeld. Only a tortured creature would torture. He's pathetic.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 11:18 PM
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2. Rumsfailed is a freakin' War Criminal.
Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm






Further Evidence Rumsfeld Implicated in War Crimes
Please read this important post by Marty Lederman, Army Confirms: Rumsfeld Authorized Criminal Conduct.

Here's a key section, but there's more:
The Army's charges against Jordan reflect the view, undoubtedly correct, that the use of forced nudity or intimidation with dogs against detainees subject to military control constitutes cruelty and maltreatment that Article 93 makes criminal. It doesn't matter whether they are or are not "torture," as such; nor does it matter whether the armed forces should be permitted to use such interrogation techniques: As things currently stand, they are unlawful, as even the Army now acknowledges.

But then how can we account for the actions of the Secretary of Defense and his close aides?

On November 27, 2002, Pentagon General Counsel William Haynes, following discussions with Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, General Myers, and Doug Feith, informed the Secretary of Defense that forced nudity and the use of the fear of dogs to induce stress were lawful techniques, and he recommended that they be approved for use at Guantanamo.
(The lists of techniques to which Haynes was referring can be found in this memorandum.) On December 2, 2002, Secretary Rumsfeld approved those techniques for use at Guantanamo -- and subsequently those techniques were used on detainee Mohammed al-Qahtani.

In other words, the Secretary of Defense authorized criminal conduct.

...

Today's Army charge under UCMJ Article 93 against Lt. Col. Jordan -- for conduct that the SecDef actually authorized as to some detainees -- demonstrates that Rumsfeld approved of, and encouraged, violations of the criminal law.
http://www.discourse.net/archives/2006/04/further_evidence_rumsfeld_implicated_in_war_crimes.html
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 01:15 AM
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3. Its all coming out into the big Picture:::Rummy is TOAST...he will go the
way of the Lone Loon...off into the sunset on a Mule...
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