How Many on DU Predicted a CIvil War in Iraq after the Invasion?

[stepnw1f]

I for one believed this would happen right after dipshit gave the orders for an invasion, and was amazed at the level of ignorance the media portrayed regarding the Iraq's volatile history. So now that our media (MSNBC) has FINALLY caught up with the reality that Iraq is now in the midst of a Civil War, who here predicted this would happen long ago?

What did you think was going to happen if the US invaded Iraq?

[soleft]

1. There was flash animation posted in DU before the invasion

Which predicted all of the things that would happen as a result. I wish I had book marked or could locate that animation now to see how much of it was accurate.

[originalpckelly]

16. When was it posted, it might be in the internet archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://democraticunderground.com

[xultar]

2. What about Iraq invasion = candy and flowers That's what rummy said.

[stepnw1f]

4. DU Was Wayyyy Ahead of the Curve....

That's alot of folks who could see what was going to happen before it actually did. I have a hard time believing these people (Bush Admin and Media) were that STUPID.

[xultar]

10. Me too. But apparently they were that stoopid. They believed their own hype.

[AngryOldDem]

15. No, they believed their own hubris. n/t

[Marie26]

19. Believe it

Before the invasion, Bush didn't even know the difference between the Shiites & the Sunnis. Just unbelievable hubris & stupidity.

[stepnw1f]

20. That's Just Bush and His Ignorance of "Petty" Details

Notice the quotes... his hubris makes him STUPID, true but then again the man never gave a shit about the life lost in this war, so I think Studity has very little to do with his decision. He's a heartless sociopathic brat. Details such as what you refer to, don't matter to his kind. What matters is power and greed and of course his fragile ego.

[conscious evolution]

3. No appropiate answer provided for what I

thought would happen.Civil war just didn't occur to me.

What I envisioned was more of a protracted Stalingrad type of insurgency against the US in Bahgdad and other major cities.One where the Iraqis never gave up fighting us.
I never thought for a moment that it would degenerate into such sectarian violence the way it has.
Guess I was wrong!
I do think the US is behind it all though.It fits the MO of bushco.

[rurallib]

5. I made such a prediction in front of a high school class

Most everything I said has come true. All that is left is that the whole region fall into chaos. And it's not like I am a genius. All the clues were there in the open in the history of the area.

[stepnw1f]

9. Same Here, rurallib. And I don't Teach

Your students surely respect you more than ever....

[nolabels]

6. You might also ask is who is predicting Iraq would stay a country.........

after the vacuum occurs when the foreigners leave?


A short history of Iraq
MODERN IRAQ was carved out when the old Ottoman Empire collapsed at the end of the First World War.

It was ruled by Britain as a colony under a 1932 "mandate" decided by the forerunner to the United Nations-the League of Nations. Power was then passed to a British-appointed pliant ruler, Faisal.

Oil was first extracted in 1928 by a company later swallowed up by British Petroleum (BP).

To control the country the British passed laws favouring the dominant landowning class, and rigged elections to a puppet parliament. RAF bombers were repeatedly used to put down uprisings in the north of Iraq.
(snip)
http://users.otenet.gr/~adgeki/iraq/iraq1.htm

[WilliamPitt]

7. Yo

[David Zephyr]

24. He did.

n/t

[treestar]

8. I didn't know enough about Iraq but remain in amazement

That those in the top levels of government knew so little (or pretended to know so little).

[stepnw1f]

14. That's Why I Posted This Poll

To get people talking about the "How" or "Why" this all happened. It's just too hard to believe they could be this STUPID.

[treestar]

17. Long term state department employees

would have had to have known a lot about Iraq - they were paid to know about it - every country has a desk in the State Department.

Therefore the Bushites deliberately did it their own way without using this fount of knowledge that the taxpayers had been paying for, for decades. Otherwise, they'd at least have realized what populations there already were in Iraq and how they would be affected and have some idea how to approach that. Instead, they treat them as a simple unit of one - Iraqis (and feed the freepers inability to tell the difference between any groups of what they deem the unified enemy - the Muslims).

[havocmom]

11. Hobbled together (for geo-political/economic reasons) 'nations'

from peoples who do not share any national identity never seem to work without a very strong tyrant in place to give people something to worry about besides their differences.

Tito and what came after comes to mind.

Western 'Nation Building' for political reasons, from back in the first half of Twentieth Century, is teaching a hard lesson about unintended consequences. Sadly, the class that ran the experiment won't accept the results time after time.

The definition of insanity comes to mind.

[madrchsod]

12. that`s why poppy and crew knew they could`t go to baghdad

they did`t really want to fire saddam they just wanted to demote him...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. i did. anyone who knows the history of iraq could have predicted it.

[radfringe]

18. now that the media is calling it a civil war -- how long

how long before:

1. Snowjob denies it's a civil war?
2. RW Kool-aid drinkers deny it's a civil war?
3. Faux blames the civil war on the dems?
4. O'reilly declares there's a war on war?

[stepnw1f]

21. All the Things You Mentioned

have already happened....

[DinahMoeHum]

22. *hand raised* I said Iraq is like the former Yugoslavia. . .

not really a country but a loose confederation of tribes held together only by a strongman or a dictator.

Too bad we've been proven correct.

:evilfrown:

[Zhade]

23. Right here. Like many against the war here, I've unfortunately been right all along.

Really prefer not to be...

[laundry_queen]

25. I wasn't even a DU'er then.

All it took was a few clicks on some links and I had all the information I needed to know a civil war would be just a matter of time. It's amazing the stupidity of the admin...media...etc...The information wasn't hard to find. They just didn't want to find it.