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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:21 PM
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Classic FR Post RE: Homeschooling
"We have some friends that are 'unschoolers' and don't use any curriculum. There kids no how to read, write, and do arithmetic just fine. Both my kids no how to ride a bike. We certainly didn't need any formal curriculum to teach them...."

They're "unteaching" them to be "morans" apparently!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1744698/posts#comment?q=1


:rofl:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:23 PM
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1. I no, I no...Seriesly.
:eyes:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:23 PM
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2. oh know..... lol lol lol n/t
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:24 PM
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3. just... wow.
Guess his/her kids will be well prepared to take on one of those lucrative bike-riding jobs at the completion of "there ejikashun."

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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:32 PM
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12. LOL
"Guess his/her kids will be well prepared to take on one of those lucrative bike-riding jobs..."

Laughed until I choked.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:44 PM
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18. Thanks ... I needed that laugh
So sad, isn't it? How can they explain that they dropped out of home schooling for a messengers job? :rofl:
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evilgenius602 Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:50 PM
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21. thats "edumacation"
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:24 PM
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4. There was an article about unteaching in the NYT yesterday.
Da-yum.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:25 PM
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5. their kids are young inventors!
They invent their own spelling and grammar!
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:26 PM
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6. i don't no if the lack of formal curriculum had any noticable effect here.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:28 PM
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7. They give home schooling a bad name
Some people do it very, very well, and for some kids, it's the only way they can learn.

These boneheads just do it for ideology and keeping the gummint out of their faces. A lot of home-schooled kids simply collapse in college because they are not taught critical thinking.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:34 PM
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13. my niece was gven chance after chance. even tried private
and she was not cutting it. was all about the social aspect of school, and not the work. she has been homeschooling since june and kicking tush. she keeps it up, he will let her go back into public junior year. she will probably be graduated by then and be taking college courses. i could see me doing it with oldest son if environment in school became untolerable. i am not opposed to homeschooling per se
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:51 PM
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38. The problem is learning to deal with your peers etc.
...is very hard to learn when you're with your family every day. I know my daughter used to have absolute fits about presentations etc. in school and we would practice and practice at home and now she's real comfortable with all that. You can practice that in your living room but you kind of need to DO it in public, in the classroom.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:28 PM
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8. "Both my kids *no* how to ride a bike" I hope that person is not teaching them :) (nt)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:29 PM
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9. Was the moran "freeper-schooled"
:rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:30 PM
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10. Me noes how tooz!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:31 PM
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11. Sometimes one has to wonder
whether this stuff is satire.

Has to be... doesn't it?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:47 PM
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36. Dan Quayle has made me believe that anything that nothing has to be satire
When it comes out of the mouth of a Republican.
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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:36 PM
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14. not the same homeschoolers
who win the spelling bee competition every year, apparantly.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:53 PM
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22. Those households are well educated households and are doing
it because they can do a better job. Homeschooling became popular when the schools became integrated. Homeschooling and private Christian schools became the refuge for those who didn't like race mixing.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:23 PM
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27. Cite please
I know of one homeschooler who won. Please let me know of additional ones. ApparEntly, I don't know of the other ones.

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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 05:13 PM
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37. thank you spelling nazi
I was making the same point that everyone else in the thread has been making - that this guy wasn't too bright.

Relax. Every time I see an article on those spelling bees, homeschoolers are everywhere. I'm sorry if I don't follow it like baseball or football and can rattle off past winners and where they went to school.

My point is that homeschoolers comprise a much larger % of the National Spelling Bee finalists than they do in the broader population - about 13% of the finalists. (http://hsblog.org/index.php?title=national_spelling_bee_broadcast_in_prime&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)

Feel free to cite your own sources that contradict my belief, as pointless as it is, since it wasn't the reason for my post
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:45 PM
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49. 'Scuse me
I thought you were just another victim of the Whole Language program. I see more and more of them on this board. Surely we don't have that many trolls. }(
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:56 PM
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41. Apparantly not
:rofl:
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beth9999 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:41 PM
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15. Seriously...
... I don't know why we allow *anyone* to be exempt from public school education.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:41 PM
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16. I know several liberals into home-schooling and unschooling
And some others who send their kids to a free school. And they are all bright kids who can read, write and spell just fine.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:43 PM
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17. So glad that is working out for them. Good grief!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:45 PM
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19. "Skool"














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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:47 PM
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20. What insight! A formal curriculum isn't needed to teach children to ride bikes!
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:57 PM
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23. You guys are a bunch of no it alls!!
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 03:59 PM by MidwestTransplant
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:13 PM
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24. Edited to correct correct spelling?
:rofl: :bounce:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:21 PM
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26. LOL yeah, I used one "l" in alls initally ;)
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evilgenius602 Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:13 PM
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25. sitting in a sewer and adding to it.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:24 PM
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28. Some friends have asked me to tutor their kids
One young woman is fifteen - she did not know how many nickels were in a quarter. Nor does she know about inches in a foot.

The other probably does not either.


One has been home schooled - the other has been in very exclusive private schools.

neither knows the multiplication tables.

There seems to be a whole culture surrounding the notion that we should NOT do anything to disrupt the lives of our kids. Don'tmakethem do "meaningless memory" work...

A whole generation that will not know how to spell, write correctly in terms of grammar, and diddily about even giving or getting proper change.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:42 PM
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33. well, American kids anyway.
lots of well educated kids in other parts of the world - where they'll be able to attend Universities paid for by societies that understand the value of education to society as a whole.
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beth9999 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:46 PM
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35. That's why public school education should be compulsory...
Because with home schooling or private schools there is no oversight.

How do you know that your kids are getting a quality education? It's every child's right to get an education - regardless of whether the parents want to provide one or not. Likewise, it's every child's right to have a *quality* education. The only way to do that is by having compulsory public school education with a standard course of study and government oversight.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:58 PM
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43. how do you really know they are in public schools?
Plenty of kids come out of public schools not knowing how to make change.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:09 PM
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46. I work as a teacher for a charter home school.
I advise and consult with parents who would like to home school, but who still want their children to follow the state guidelines. Their curriculum must be one that can be bought with public funds. The children are tested at testing centers. They join field trips and group activities. But, a majority of their learned is done at home, but under my general guidance.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:55 PM
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39. Scary
:scared:

Just asked my 10yo public school kid. She knows. ::phew::
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:25 PM
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29. "There" kids.
:eyes:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:34 PM
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30. Those poor freeper children are totally screwn...nt
Sid
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:58 PM
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42. I know one who homeschools to avoid evolution
and what she calls "so-called" science. She won't let her kids have any text books that have "lies" like the world is millions of years old and dinosaurs were not created the same week as humans.

Just sad. Needless to say none of her kids are biologists!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:37 PM
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31. if you don't not no,
you are screwn
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:41 PM
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32. OK, how is it
that this FReeper can spell curriculum correctly but doesn't know the difference between 'know' and 'no?'

:eyes:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:43 PM
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34. spellchecker?
it won't spot incorrect usage...
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:56 PM
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40. Actually, "unschooling" is a fairly progressive idea.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:02 PM
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44. Let's let the Freepers take it, can't we? /nt
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:04 PM
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45. because they aren't "unschooling" - that entails allowing a person to think for himself.
They are just keeping their kids ignorant.

Big difference.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:15 PM
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47. kiriath_jearim Should have her Kids Taken Away, You no..
No really, I am not the greatest in my English, but I know how to use the word know. This crazy gal is teaching her kids. I bet she is a homeschooler because public school does not have the right level of Jesus in it.

Wow, take this gals kids awat and get them into a school ASAP, so they can get some nolage
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:21 PM
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48. Those poor kids are SO screwn.
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