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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:03 PM
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Inlaw's comment of the weekend
My mother in law said this about Iraq:

"It seems like it would be easier if we just killed them all"

:wow:

Didn't say anything. Wouldn;t have been able to say anything nice back. Was thinking - "well that didn't work out too well for the Nazis did it..."
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:04 PM
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1. or we just leave them the fuck alone????
:shrug:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:07 PM
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3. From my mother, the "believer" to my secular children:
"Well, since you believe in "nothing", you'll
get "nothing" for Christmas!

(Said as a joke)

Ha Ha Ha
Ho Ho Ho
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:28 PM
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14. Saint Santa Claus
It's been proved that Santa Claus was the thirteenth apostle. What the fuck does religion have to do with giving gifts at Christmas? Nothing.

(And yes, I know Chris Rock was actually the thirteenth apostle. :evilgrin:)
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:16 PM
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27. How do you guys do it?
I have the deepest respect for you! Really. I would say something really stupid, my wife would divorce me, my mil would cry, my fil would try and probably succeed in beating the hell out of me, my kids would hate me, there is no way such a thing could possibly end well. I am impressed with your self control and the obvious love you have for your families to gladly and smilingly suffer such spiteful abuse.

To you! :toast:
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zreosumgame Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:05 PM
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2. ya know, some people say the same thing about Carthage and the Roman Empire
they make the claim that Rome 'solved' it's crisi in Carthage by commiting genocide, so that must mean genocide is not all bad. they never have an answer when i ask them where that empire is now...rubble.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:08 PM
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4. "But I thought we were over there to help them. Voting with purple fingers. Liberating
their women and all. 'Killing them all' doesn't exactly square with that now, does it?

Was that all a lie?"
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:01 PM
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21. Exactly. When the war first started, my redneck NRA repub brother in law
was rounding up the neighborhood kids and teaching them how to play army. He had four year olds marching around the block chanting "Let's kill Iraqis."

This "Moran" couldn't figure out whether we were there to liberate or annihilate.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:11 PM
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5. Riposte: "Then why did we try Saddam for killing them?"
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:12 PM
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6. I've heard this sentiment from several "Christian"
neighbors and co-workers. They're not Christians, of course. If they were, they'd know that true Christians can't proclaim that they're Christians - that designation is for a higher power to decide. They're on a path. "I am the path. I am the way." They're on a journey.
And, judging by their desire to see millions of people slaughtered, they're not very far on their journey. In fact, they appear to be walking backwards.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:35 PM
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17. I'm tired of hearing "they aren't Christian". Sorry to say this
but they are Christian if they say they are and others agree.

No one is a "true Christian"
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:27 PM
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28. I guess it depends on your study of The Bible
and I was taught, in the Presbyterian Church, that Christianity is a journey which continues. You can consider people who wish others dead Christians if you want. I don't. That's not how I was taught The Bible. People can make whatever claim they want, that they're honest (George W. Bush), that they're competent (Donald Rumsfeld). But that doesn't make that true.
Christians who label themselves Christians should remember that by their acts shall you know them.
Again, if this is what Christianity means to you, hoping that "they all die", then clearly your understanding of Christian philosophy is very different than mine.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:37 PM
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30. Consider: Christianity is a lable one assigns themselves, and
is agreed upon by other Christians.

Therefore, if enough people (who may not act Chrsitain) call themselves Christian, then, well, they are. And it can be confirmed by the scores of other Christians.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:45 PM
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32. Christians by label, but not by actions
which means, the label is meaningless. People wishing the deaths of others clearly have no understanding of Christian philosophy. A second grader can call himself a math professor. He's not. And doesn't know trig or calculus. But, hey, he says he's a math professor.
It's just not that easy. That's the point.
Go ahead. Call them Christians. You can equate people who hate and pray for the deaths of innocents with a man like Jimmy Carter, a man who lives the Christian philosophy. Not the same to me.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:10 AM
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34. Right, you just disqualified millions, possibly billions of christians.
You don't sound like any atheist I've ever known.

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:42 AM
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35. So, even if you don't follow the teachings
of Christ, you still consider people who say they're Christians...to BE Christians? So actually practicing Christianity is meaningless -- you just call yourself a Christian, and presto, you become one.
That's contrary to the religious teaching I had in the Presbyterian Church.
Clearly, your religious background taught differently.
Let's agree to disagree. To me, people who don't follow the teachings of Christ and who pray for the deaths of others are not Christians. To me.
To you, there are. They don't have to practice Christianity - they just need to say they are Christians. And you're satisfied.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:51 PM
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18. ComerPerro is right.
The No True Scotsman fallacy is called a fallacy for a reason.

And since when can "true" christians decide that other christians aren't "true" christians, hmm?

Isn't that supposed to be up to the Big Guy, too?
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:35 PM
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29. If your understanding of the teachings of Jesus
is that people who wish "we'd kill them all" is Christianity, then go ahead -- call them Christians. But The Bible teaches that a person becomes a Christian through their actions. It's a journey -- remember Jesus saying "I am the path. I am the way."
Again, consider people who hate and wish for the deaths of others Christians if that is how you were taught the faith. But I don't consider those people even remotely to be Christians. Just saying you're something doesn't make it so, this is actually one of the strongest lessons of The Bible.
By the way, I don't consider myself a "true" Christian (your terms, not mine.) or any kind of Christian. I'm an atheist.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:08 AM
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33. So you're even less qualified to judge who is a christian that they are.
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 01:08 AM by beam me up scottie
Was Torquemada a christian?

How about the Grand Inquisitors?

If you're judging christians by how Christ-like they are, there are no true christians.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:45 AM
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36. Wow. That's our choices
Torquemada or the Inquisitors? How about the millions of Christians who quietly go about their decent lives every day without abusing other people or desiring their deaths?
You want a name of a true Christian? How about Jimmy Carter?
But in order to know Christians, look around. I have a guy sitting six feet from me who uses what little spare time he has to visit prison inmates and escort women seeking abortions into clinics.
By your deeds shall you know them.
Look around.
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:14 PM
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7. This is a scary mindset -
I was reading a blog, somewhere today, that had freeper posts that reiterated just what your in law said. One of the posts talked about nuking Baghdad. They absolutely have no compassion for the tragedy that has been inflicted on so many innocent people.

I wish we could send them all over there for a little vacation.
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:15 PM
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8. More
she says "they're so brainwashed, there's nothing you can do with them."

Last year my wife asked how she could support killing innocent children - she replied "there are no innocent children there, they're all suicide bombers."
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:23 PM
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11. "they're so brainwashed, there's nothing you can do with them." = what irony!
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:15 PM
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9. I hear it all the time at work.
This is from the devout christians no less.

I'll have to try the Nazi reference, thanks.

It won't do any good, but it might shut them up for a minute or two.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:22 PM
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10. Ask them if they've ever heard.....
of the Sixth Commandment.
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:29 PM
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15. That would only apply to
good "christian" neighbors right here in the good ole USA.
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:24 PM
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12. I have an aunt who says the same thing.
I straight out said she was no better than the murdering scum she claims to despise and wants wiped off the planet.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:24 PM
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13. Yes, especially if the only reason to slaughter millions is to not "lose".
Losing your soul apparently doesn't factor into this.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:34 PM
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16. well, its very true. It would be easiest just to kill everyone over there
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:52 PM
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19. That's right. But as human beings, we're called upon to do more difficult things.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:55 PM
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20. I hate your mother in law.
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:04 PM
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23. She is hard to stomach
she reminds me of Peggy Noonan. She thinks she's super sophisticated, but she really knows nothing.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:03 PM
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22. I have never understood why people put up
with this shit. I wouldn't have somebody like that in my house.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:06 PM
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24. A Repuke said that in my house on Thanksgiving
I just made some snide remark about killing 10,000 people for every American killed.

The RWers are getting nasty just before they finally have to admit defeat.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:06 PM
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25. But, But, We Went There to Save Them
from their evil dictator who was "killing them". Mass graves, rape rooms.

Boy is MIL an idiot, so sorry for you!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:12 PM
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26. Sorry about your mother in law being a stupid and heartless bitch
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:42 PM
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31. Actually, I think you should have said it...
No one should be able to allowed to get away with a vile comment like that, IMO.
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