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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:31 PM
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Need help: Patriat akt question: Taking large cash stash on a plane.
This is a domestic flight, but, because someone I know will be selling a vintage guitar, they'll have $20,000+ in c ash on them.

Will this be a problem with the new Patriat akt rules?

I figure, someone on DU will know!

Thanks!
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:34 PM
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1. Get a certified check instead
Much safer. I don't know about the Patriot Act but it is not safe to carry that much cash anywhere. Security might think they are a drug dealer and confiscate it too. Tell your friend to find some other way.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:35 PM
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2. FedEx the cash to me. PM me for the address. n/t
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:39 PM
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8. Right after you buy a nice bridge I put on ebay. n/t.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:18 PM
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17. I'll give you a dollar down and $19,000 when I get that 20K. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:36 PM
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3. Email someone in Nigeria to accept the funds for you.
;)
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:39 PM
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9. This is serious. Vintage guitars are spensive! n/t.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:37 PM
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4. What's a "Patriat akt?"
Redstone
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:38 PM
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7. Probably a lot like the "pastry rot" act, which is my name for it.
:shrug:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:40 PM
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11. That's "USA PASTRY ROT," in all caps, to you...
You MUST show respect.

Redstone
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:37 PM
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5. Tell him to not even THINK about carrying more than $1k.
They'll confiscate large sums of money like it was nothing and laugh their way to the bank. I don't know if it's true, but I've heard before that there are ways to detect the strips that are in our money now, and they "glow" in different colors depending on the denomination. If that's true then no matter how well secreted away that money is, they'll find it.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:38 PM
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6. Having that much cash on you anywhere
is a disaster screaming to happen.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:44 PM
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13. Listen to the Shadow. nt
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:40 PM
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10. it is my unerstanding they can take an inordinate amount of cash and if they do you will
die of old age before the paper work gets it back.. a casheers check might be a better way to go.. but it will ring bells when it is cashed, and there will most likely be an investigation.. laundering drug money into over valued items is a common manouver.

i would check with someone in the buisness of dealing with inordinate amounts of cash before doing anything like that... maybe you should just drive..
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:43 PM
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12. Wire transfer the funds to a bank at your destination point OR
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 09:47 PM by Mind_your_head
if you have an account with a bank with locations at your current location & the destination location, just withdraw the funds at the destination point.

Make sure you ask to speak with and sit down with a "personal banker" about what you want to do, not just a schmuck at the teller window. Get the personal bankers name/business card and they can help you arrange what you want to do. Should only cost like $15.00 (for a wire transfer), or perhaps nothing at all.

on edit adding: I'm assuming the $20,000 is 'legitimately made money' and not something that someone wants to "lauder". With that assumption, I don't understand some of the replies the OP is getting here. However, perhaps my assumption is wrong, and that's why the responses? :shrug:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:45 PM
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14. It hasn't been safe carrying large amounts of cash for decades.
Drug trade. If you show up with lots of cash and they see it they will assume you're buying or selling drugs and confiscate the money. Wire transfer, certified check(actually easy to fake), Western Union, whatever. Not cash.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:03 AM
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15. NO-NO-NO!
Do NOT under any circumstances take more than $500-$1000 in cash on an airplane, domestic or international does NOT matter.

Airline employees or security personnel will contact police. It WILL be confiscated, and the person carrying it might be arrested or held. Any large amount of cash is automatically considered to be for illegal purchases such as drug buys. The fucked up laws of this country allow the money to be confiscated even without proof. This has happened numerous times to people, and the money is for all intents and purposes unrecoverable.

Cashiers check, bank wire transfer - there are other alternatives, please use them.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:59 PM
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16. Thanks. I passed your into along to my friend. I hope it worked out.
I'll let you all know when I hear from him tonight!

Thanks, my DU family!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:25 PM
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20. Yep wire transfer to a bank account where he's headed
His stateside bank can set it all up for him..and when he gets to his destination, he can go with the seller to complete the transaction.. That way he'll have bank paperwork for the guitar he's bringing back.. Is he buying a seat for it?

he better check with the airline or he might have to put it in the baggage section :scared:

he needs WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION with phone numbers for all this or his customs "visit" could be HELL on earth

:)
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:22 PM
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18. Deposit it in a bank before coming home,
problem solved.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:22 PM
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19. Deposit it in a bank before coming home,
problem solved.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:21 AM
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21. Thanks for the advice. He made it back just fine. But I worried!
Thanks for the help from my Du family.
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