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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:54 PM
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Apparently you can say things and then deny you said them.
Councilman Charles Barron: "There's no consequences for killing a black person. I am fed-up. I'm not asking my people to do anything passive anymore. We're going to sit here and we're going to go in there, and we're going to pray, we're going to march, we're going to do all of that stuff and then we're going to sit down, and if they don't respond to none of that, don't ask us to ask our people to be peaceful while they are being murdered. We're not the only ones that can bleed."


He just denied that he is stirring up violence in a community. Right. Not asking people to do "anything passive anymore" and demanding not to be asked to be peaceful and implying that others can bleed isn't even a hint at violence. Unbelievable.


http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1798356.htm
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 09:57 PM
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1. Is he "stirring up" violence, or just recognizing violence that already exists?
Without more context, I can't disagree with
anything he said in that little paragraph.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:03 PM
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2. What kind of context do you need?
Seems to me a truly responsible elected leader would be urging calm. You think he's just "recognizing" the violence? Fine. Then why didn't he say anything against that violence? Why doesn't he realize that if such violence exists, then more of "his people" (he uses the term "my people") will be injured or killed, and that's bad for the community?

When his comments were read back to him in an interview, he followed up each line with "That's right." There was no attempt to clear up anything. He was angry and was, in my opinion, clearly stoking the flames.

Bottom line, this guy is irresponsible.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:19 AM
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3. Bullshit, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. nt
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:23 AM
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4. Oh great - a DUer condoning violence.
And apparently with no regard for innocent civilian life that would surely be lost in the process. And let me guess...when the police respond to this "fire" you're calling for, you'll be outraged all over again, right?

Sometimes I can't believe the radical nonsense I read here.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:17 AM
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9. "...don't ask us to ask our people to be peaceful while they are being murdered."
That's "radical nonsense" to you, then?

Seems like plain old COMMON SENSE to me.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:35 AM
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10. I agree...
and he told Hannity's ass a thing or two like he should have, he also asked why did he have an convicted criminal on ,,...Hannity was out done>I loved it,,Bernie keric the convicted criminal was speechless...
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jelly Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:34 AM
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5. that quote is susceptible to multiple interpretations
I'm sure that his reference to not being passive simply meant protesting and being politically active rather than sitting back and seething helplessly in frustration. The not being peaceful and bleeding thing is more troubling but might be construed simply to suggest self-defense in the face of attack. Of course, who knows how people would take that; one man's self-defense is another man's preemptive war if we are to take a lesson from the neocons so I agree his sentiment was at minimum irresponsibly phrased.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:51 AM
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6. Tempest in a teapot.
Consider the source. :rofl::silly::rofl:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:57 AM
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7. Um
"...don't ask us to ask our people to be peaceful while they are being murdered."

This makes perfect sense to me.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:24 AM
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8. "We were never about staying the course"
Apparently people can say whatever lies they want...:shrug: If you are a Democrat you get slammed but the opposite if you are Republican...
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