Looks to me like the victims of plice shooting in NYC thought undercover agents

[Kellyiswise]

might have been some kind of a gang themselves. Since these were undercover agents dressed in street clothes the victims probably thought they were about to be targets of a crime themselves. This is one of the worse cases of police overreaction and should not go unpunished. I hope the survivors get millions.

[Webster Green]

1. Probably a bunch of asshole narcs..

The scum of the earth.

Lower than maggot shit.

[Tony Soprano]

6. Preach on Brother Green

Lower than the 7th layer of whale shit in the deepest part of the deepest ocean of the world.

[tuvor]

2. What are you basing this on?

Any links you can point us to?

[Sydnie]

9. I saw Keith describe it on Countdown

with a little graphic to show just how the police began the engagement and how the guys in the car responded. If I were the guys in the car, I think I would have thought the exact same thing that Kelly suggests in her OP. They way they positioned themselves not only on foot but with their vehicle, I would have thought that I were in danger too. And, as it turns out, they were. It was just the guys that were supposed to be wearing the white hats, acting like the guys that wear the black hats, that did them in. Imagine the survivors surprise when they discovered this info while recovering in the hospital.

Shameful!

[rocktivity]

3. Nearly 48 hours after the fact, the cops haven't offered up a coherent explanation

but they have revealed that two of the victims have criminal records!

:eyes:
rocknation

[newburgh]

7. We just went through this in our little town...

ANY killing by police officers is never JUSTIFIED. Otherwise, why bother even having judges and juries? There are injustices and good and bad people end up on the wrong end of the system all the time, but feeding the public irrelevant information that would make some sheeple come to the conclusion that such an instance may be justified is irresponsible and egregious. It takes a long time to come up with a story, but the truth can be expressed in an instant...

[antiimperialist]

4. Let's see what Bloomberg is made of

Bloomberg loves to paint himself as a "moderate" and a fair politician. Let's see how he handles this case.

[Zensea]

8. So far he seems to be handling it well (link included)

CNN link

"I can tell you that it is to me unacceptable or inexplicable how you can have 50-odd shots fired," said Bloomberg. "But that's up to the investigation to find out what really happened."

Of the victims, Bloomberg said Monday: "There is no evidence that they were doing anything wrong," referring to everything leading up to the moment they struck the officer with their car. (Watch Mayor Bloomberg push for a grand jury probe )

For a mayor to question the actions of the officers and defend the shooting victims -- while reaching out immediately to the grieving community -- sets a decidedly different tone than in the past.

[Tony Soprano]

5. Kelly

if you are "wise" you know the cops ARE a gang.

[RamboLiberal]

10. In their undercover role 2 of the cops had a couple of drinks

Whoa! That's a big no-no in my book. One thing that has been drilled in to me over and over as a civilian who shoots competitions is no alcohol. NY Daily News is doing best job IMHO of covering this story.

<snip>

Kelly conceded that one of the two undercover officers who were also inside the Kalua Cabaret on 94th Ave. in Jamaica before the shooting had a couple of beers, but he said it was not a factor in the incident. Sources identified that cop as a woman but did not divulge her name.

"We authorize them to have two drinks and no more," he said. "This whole initiative started at 1 o'clock in the morning. So they were in the club for as long as three hours."

Cops making an arrest are supposed to identify themselves, but the NYPD has found no witnesses who say they did, sources said. Benefield, who was hit three times and was in stable condition yesterday, told a pal that he and those in the car thought the cops were hoods.

"They didn't know they were cops," said Shamel O'Neal, 20, after visiting Benefield at Mary Immaculate Hospital. "They thought they were in trouble. They feared for their lives."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/475269p-399744c.html

<snip>

Everyone seems to agree somebody shouted a warning about a gun moments before the cops fired 50 shots at a trio of unarmed young men in a car.

The question is who shouted. A civilian witness named China Flores - who admits to a long history with the law - insists it was one of the three young men who called out, "He's got a gat! He's got a gat!" to his friends. The young man, Trent Benefield, had seen a tall figure approach, holding something black at his side.

The tall figure was an undercover cop, and a published account citing police sources maintains that he was the one who shouted, "He's got a gun! He's got a gun!"

But the young men did not have a gun. The figure who approached them did. And Benefield would later say he and his two friends had no idea the man was an undercover police officer.

If Benefield was indeed the one who shouted, there remains the possibility that the other cops thought the warning had come from the undercover approaching the car. The cops would not have expected the three young men in the car to be the ones to call out that somebody had a gun.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/475237p-399759c.html