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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:26 AM
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Democracy Now and Meet The Press...
If you have not watched the November 27th episode of Democracy Now, which has an interview with Nir Rosen or the November 26th episode of Meet the Press that has Gen. McCaffery (Who I did not like); Gen. Downing; Sen. Skelton (D-MO) and Sen. Hunter (Rethug-WTF), please watch them.

If already have seen them, great. Who do think is full of shit?

Rosen gave an entirely different view of what is going on in the Middle East and that civil war has been going on since 2003. The Sunni have lost all aspects of power and the Shia are or will have a cleanesing of the Sunni population. The numbers that they gave on Meet the Press about Iraq civialian deaths was extremely low from other numbers I have heard, which was 600,000 and higher. Also they failed to speak about the Iraqs that are fleeing the country, they cant say REFUGEES because that would mean there was a actually a "problem."

All this talk of Malaki taking charge and there emphasis on me by Hunter was not the picture that Rosen gave. Stating that Malaki and Bush are both meanmingless and have absolutly no power in Iraq, Iraq is under Shia domination, Shia have the Militias and the influence where as Malaki has no militia and no authority. Hunter liked talking about the "Iraqi Brigades" and how many there are and that where some of those Brigades were (not naming cities at all mind you) there was almost no violence and they were back on track in those cities. Hunter seemed to try and paint a rosey picture of the situation and had believes that Iraq can be won, he has no interest in redeployment.


Between Nir Rosen's interview and the Meet the Press interviews I was only able to come to one conclusion: Someone is full of shit, but who? Those who have seen both, please give your 2 cents.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:22 AM
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:26 AM
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2. Nir Rosen's presentation was so searingly calm and
chillingly dead nuts accurate that it made the idiotic spin framing of the picture, repeatedly vomited out all over the msm and c-spin for the rest of the day, seems so baseless and inane.

I watched it twice. The man knows what he's talking about.
The Shia owns Iraq, sans the nearly independent turkmen area, and Malaki and bush are utterly powerless.
The only militia that Malaki can claim is the Mahdi army and he doesn't command that. He's out as soon as the American troops leave and the Sunni who haven't left the country are as good as dead, due to their centuries long disagreements as well as their usefulness to S.H.

I have absolutely no doubt Mr. Rosen is correct and, if nothing untoward comes out of the Lebanon meeting, it will confirm his views.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:22 AM
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3. Meet The Press
is nothing but a vehicle for spinning the propaganda to the public...

If you want the truth, listen to Democracy Now.

Hands down, it is THE news program to listen to and is covering the stories the MSM will not touch AND is about 6 months to a year ahead of the MSM in news that eventually will be reported by the MSM...

The fact that Duncan Hunter is on Meet The Press should be your first red flag that it is nothing but BS...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:41 AM
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4. McCaffery is very much against the war. He even said on the Diane Rhem show...
that he didn't trust the casualty statistics the Pentagon is releasing.
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