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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:17 AM
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Putting the oil baron genie back in the bottle???? How do we do this?
After listening to a Republican Washington Journal caller talk about the ME policies of * being ineptly executed and that 41's approach may be equally undesirable to them, I was screaming at my teevee that it is in Big Oil's interest to keep the region destablilized. How can the Rs really expect their leadership to get at meaningful resolutions in the ME when they have handed the store to Big Oil to mind? Strong arming will only maintain instability, which is not in US interests or in any of ME nations' interests. It only benefits Big Oil.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:22 AM
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The only real way is to move on to alternative fuel sources
Right now they have an undue amount of power because they are practically the only game in town when it comes to energy, particularly for vehicles. So the only way to really weaken them is to provide an alternative to fossil fuels.

Of course that doesn't seem to have excaped their notice either.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:22 AM
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1. Dupe n/t
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 08:25 AM by bryant69
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:26 AM
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2. We need to move away from oil...right now the government CUT funds...
from alternate energy research. THAT should be ITEM ONE on the Democratic agenda.

Al Gore said in 2000 that we will either lead the world in these new technologies or watch as the world passes us by...again.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:28 AM
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3. Do we need to slap the donkey now that it has arrived in the barn?
How far up the agenda is this for the next leadership?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:38 AM
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8. Cut funding to the war, increase funding of alternate energy research...
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 09:08 AM by Junkdrawer
We have already spent ourselves poor trying to seize the world's remaining oil supplies. Any more is money (not to mention lives) down a rat hole.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:30 AM
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5. BTW: Link to the archived fusion thread...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:29 AM
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4. Delicately. These babies hire killers.
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 08:32 AM by aquart
But then I remember how we got the electric light bulb: Thomas Alva Edison was pissed off at the gas company. So he made them obsolete.

They're nasty. They're perpetually frightened because they know they don't deserve what they have. They need to be stopped.

But anyone who believes they'll go quietly or recognize the justice.......oh, dear me.

The first thing to end is ALL their subsidies. Nobody making those profits needs that kind of help. They can give up the windfall profits or the subsidies. Their choice. Or ours.

Do congressman who take favors lose their pensions? I'd favor that.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:32 AM
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6. Exactly How Is Loss Of 80% Of The Worlds Reserves In The Interest Of Big Oil?
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 08:39 AM by loindelrio
I think big oil wants get their foot in the door. Hard to do if the door, along with the surrounding house, has been blown up.


Massive emergency conservation and energy transformation is now the only way forward. For every day this is delayed, more will suffer severe economic hardship.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:33 AM
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7. Nobody said they were bright. Greed ain't smart.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:42 AM
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10. Exactly. It was a crap shoot for them. They thought the dice
were weighted in their favor with the most sophisticated military in the world. They rolled snake eyes when they picked the people to execute the war.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:33 PM
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13. Rising oil prices/record profits. Literally MILLION$ an hour in clear profit.
BigOilInc™ has GAMED the system to the point that the
laws of supply and demand no longer apply to them.

No matter if SUPPLY goes up or down, their PROFIT$ go up.
They make as much money as the law allows...and THEY wrote the law.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:42 AM
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9. Watch The Koppel Special on Iran...Excellent
Without the shackles of Disney/ABC, the Ted Koppel special that's on the Discovery Channel is well worth the watch. He travels inside Iran and does something rarely seen on American television these days, offers a very objective view of what is going on in that country. It offers both promise and peril...but mostly in light of how our misadministration is butchering this war and creating enemies of everyone in the region.

There are still asshats in this country who refuse to think this invasion was a war for oil and profit. It wasn't obvious when we protected the oil ministry while the rest of the country was pilaged. Now we find out that oil is again being smuggled and the money is "funding the insurgency". Now whose buying that oil? Wanna bet we are? Just like we bought other "embargoed oil" in the past...as its put on the "open market" that our corporates then "bid" on. The worse the situation in Iraq, the price of oil will remain high and go higher and profit these profiteers. That's why there's no rush to get out of Iraq and then to find any alternatives to reduce dependence on oil.

It'll be years, maybe decades until the real truth of the profiteering, price fixing and collusion between this regime, big oil and the real motives for this invasion come to light. I hope it's part of a trial in the Hague with Crashcart in a glass cage.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:09 AM
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11. I hope I live long enough to see it.
God, do I! Hell, I hope Crashcart lives long enough to see it! I pray for his continues good health-what a strange position for me to find myself in!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:20 PM
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12. Bingo!
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:38 PM
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14. Anti-trust legislation.
Break them apart, reduce them to numerous regional companies, rather than a few global ones.

Co-opt the weakened and fearful remains by bringing them into the efforts developing various alt/energy solutions (all solutions).

Emphasize the benefits of localized economies amongst We, The People with the help of the broken down new localized media companies. Build localized manufacturing, farming, retailing etc to keep wealth local and small economies vibrant.

Enact rigid legislative controls over corporations such as was present at the beginning of this country (limited lifespans, clearly defined purposes, no ownership of corps by corps, corps are not "people", corporate death penalty for naughty corps).
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