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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:53 PM
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Cheney was summoned by the Saudis
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/28/cheney-saudi/

Last weekend, Vice President Cheney traveled to Saudi Arabia in a visit that “was originally portrayed as U.S. outreach to its oil-rich Arab ally.” Cheney made the trip purportedly to discuss a “range of regional issues,” Cheney’s spokeswoman said. The Associated Press reported that Cheney was “seen as a US diplomatic push to stem surging violence in Iraq.”

But today’s Washington Post reports that the push for the meeting came from the Saudis, not the other way around:

Saudi Arabia is so concerned about the damage that the conflict in Iraq is doing across the region that it basically summoned Vice President Cheney for talks over the weekend, according to U.S. officials and foreign diplomats.

WP link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/11/28/BL2006112800587_2.html


"Saudi Arabia is so concerned about the damage that the conflict in Iraq is doing across the region that it basically summoned Vice President Cheney for talks over the weekend, according to U.S. officials and foreign diplomats. The visit was originally portrayed as U.S. outreach to its oil-rich Arab ally."
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:55 PM
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1. agree - Saudis are pulling the strings

and now the snake is in Fl. reporting to the military war room
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Target_For_Exterm Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:56 PM
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2. Too bad they didn't stick him in a Saudi jail while he was...
..there. It would have solved a lot of problems for both our countries.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:58 PM
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3. so what is he and they planning on blowing up or crashing into now n/t
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:00 PM
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4. Come and kiss the hand that feeds you... (nt)
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:00 PM
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5. They're asking the idiot that CAUSED the damage to come up with SOLUTIONS?
Dang, who's more stupid?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:05 PM
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8. i think not. Think of it as calling the bad student to task and
verbally forcing him to kneel in the corner.
Remember, the Saudis always look at the big picture, and being a family owned country, they can afford to do so.
We, on the other hand, have a fluid, unpredictable foreign viewpoint, which swings from pragmatic Clinton years, to idiotic bushista doctrines.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:36 PM
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13. I suspect it's like Double T said below
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 01:51 PM by kenny blankenship
they want some face to face assurances about what the US is going to do now to hold the line at their border. A Shi'ite dominated Iraq in league with Iran would represent a potent threat to the Saudi monarchy. It was the threat from Iraq to Saudi Arabia that drew a permanent US ground force presence to the region in the first place. Now that it looks like we'll have to abandon Iraq, along with the NeoCon dream of encircling and destabilizing Iran, the Saudis must be feeling they've gone from the frying pan to the fire. Just look at the Iraqi map. If we're losing to "Al Quaeda" in Al-Anbar province, and we leave there, that leaves a large "Al-Quaeda" controlled province right on Saudi Arabia's eastern border. As everyone's heard OBL's ultimate enemy is the Saudi royal family. If "Al-Quaeda" really takes orders and/or inspiration from OBL, their next moves after our departure won't be too hard to predict--assuming they avoid being massacred by the Shia majority. The lower half of the eastern Saudi border is Shia territory where two major centers of Shia Islam, Kerbala and Najaf, are located. Will newly created Shia-Iraq and Revolutionary Shia Iran just forget that they have won an historic victory against Sunni oppression and be content only with Iraq? It may not matter much, the Saudis must be afraid, to their various Sunni and Shi'ite enemies that they were against US invasion of Iraq. It also doesn't matter that it is Bush and Cheney who have led the Saudis to this alarming position, the United States is on the hook for the security of the Saudi family and the Saudi oil. They're wanting to know I'd bet, in the way a boss demands an answer from an incompetent underling, what we're going to do now to save their bacon.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:02 PM
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6. bushco has destabilized the entire ME and the existing leadership........
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 01:03 PM by Double T
of the ME nations is extremely worried that THEY might be the next target for an uprising or civil war.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:03 PM
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7. Well, this is interesting. The meeting or visit only lasted two hours and
then the Saudis must have kicked Darth out. They must have planned exactly what they wanted to say to the minute.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:16 PM
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11. cheney's parting request: Please cut oil production, after x-mas, so exxon mobil........
can screw the the American Consumer with windfall profits starting in 2007.
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:10 PM
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9. no doubt the UK - Saudi slush fund incident, reported recently in the UK, had nothing to do with
this meeting?? - methinks we will be hearing more about that "fund" and US links to it..
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:14 PM
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10. "We are grateful you haven't inconvenienced Osama, but..."
You guys are really fucking terrible at winning wars. We figured you'd kick a little Saddam tail, then turn Iraq over to an easier-to-like dictator we could do business with. But noooooo, you had to try to steal all that oil. Now it looks like we're going to be boiled in our own oil by our people, who've gotten all hot and bothered by what you're doing to our neighbor. WHAT KIND OF FUCKWADS ARE YOU INCOMPETENT SONS OF CAMELS?
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:16 PM
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12. Was he summoned or conjured? Demons usually
require some kind of ceremonial magic to summon forth.
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Target_For_Exterm Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:39 PM
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15. Well, they did dance around shouting oil, terror, oil, terror
over and over again. That would attract a demon like Cheney.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:38 PM
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14. Oh, no! The Saudis fired Dick?!
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:42 PM
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16. It makes more sense looking at it this way
That deadeye was indeed ordered to appear before the royal family to get dressed down. I imagine he was given an agenda of things that they (the royals) wanted done, chaindrive is probably sweating bullets right now.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:47 PM
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17. SAUDIS: "We have just folded space from Ix..."
CHENEY: "Yes?... How was your journey?"

SAUDIS: "Many machines on Ix... new machines."

CHENEY: "Oh yes?"

SAUDIS: "Better than those on Richesse.. You are transparent... I see many things... I see plans within plans."

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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:05 PM
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18. they are worried about their own Shia linking up with a "Shia Crescent"
Saudi Shia live mostly in the east where there are a lot of oil fields. Saudi Shia have not been well treated by their Sunni counterparts in Saudi. I think the king of Saudi Arabia is asking Cheney about what will happen with a large scale Shia movement.

All this has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda, of course. Al-Qaeda are Sunni and cant stand the Shia -- they are on the same level as the infidels.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:06 PM
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19. he probably had to blow the king in an act of submission.
male dominance y'know
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