Just look at how big my shiny tinfoil hat is!!!!

[Javaman]

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Now this one is by and far my biggest baddest tinfoil hat theory to come along yet! Strap on those foil bonnets boys and girls you are in for a while ride into my insanity.

today or maybe yesterday, moron gingrich comes out and says that the U.S. maybe forced to reexamine freedom of speech. Basically so we can fight the terrorists better. yeah right. that aside.

Who right now holds the lion share of our t-bonds aka our debt load? China. Now suppose some guys with pea sized brains inside the WH reason that since the U.S. is on the same path financially as the titanic was to transatlantic commerce (pardon the mixed metaphor) and the rising star (pardon the pun) is China. So rather than do what needs to be done here, cut back, conserve, enact laws to prevent outsourcing, etc. You know the drill, these brainiacs in WH have instead have thrown in the towel and their long term plan is to allow the U.S. to become a satellite of China.

So what needs to be done? Well, take away our rights to conform more to Chinese way of gov't. Limit our freedoms, take away habeas corpus, etc.

So by this time come 2050 we will be fully adapted and be parceled off to the far east. I see the selling of California to China to pay off our gigantic debt at that point.

You can extrapolate all you want. Like I said, MAJOR tinfoil hat theory.


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[Jackpine Radical]

1. Off-the-wall. Outre. Crazy. Just plain wacko.

Unfortunately, those characteristics mean your theory is probably right.

[blm]

13. Bush1 set up WalMart with Chinese industrialists back in the 70s.

That is where the global fascism movement took its first giant step against US democracy.

[Fridays Child]

2. Did you see those articles a few months back about Cheney's...

...investment portfolio? He's betting against the United States, big time, as the bastard himself would say.

[JuniperLea]

3. My b/f has been saying that for a long time...

We even talk about learning to speak and write in Chinese...

BushCo and their money will be safely tucked away on some lovely island and we will be left paying the debt quite literally with our skin.

[yy4me]

7. I believe it is Paraguay. A couple of hundred acres, handy

access to everything, no extradition. He's all set. Wonder if we'll send a secret service detail to guard him and his $$$.

[mentalsolstice]

10. I was about to correct you...

...and say that Paraguay isn't an island...but then I remembered with global warming...you're probably right, a tropical island...

[valerief]

4. Someone's in the kitchen with China, someone's in the kitchen

I know ho ho ho, someone's in the kitchen with Chiiiiiiiiiiiina giving us the old heave-ho.

[JohnnyRingo]

5. Though I approach conspiracy theories with a grain of salt....

Every conspiracy theory has one foot in conspiracy fact

[havocmom]

6. Does DimSon's uncle still get a cut of goods in and out of China?

Where was that hat of your's made? ;)

Tinfoil has been validated a lot lately.

[leftofthedial]

8. these criminals don't care about that

although the net effect might well be that

all they care about is making a clean getaway to Paraguay with the trillions of dollars they have stolen

[peacetalksforall]

9. It's not so crazy. Let's figure out how they are going to shut us

up or shut us down. With Chinese soldiers?

The reason I don't think it is that crazy is that it matches my crazy idea - that something happened a couple of decades ago when 'talks' were held with China and they started to change to capitalism and we started to change to being controlled. And it matches our discoveries of how they are trying to make us into a rich-poor only country by destroying unions, shipping our jobs, closing down companies, leaving little to brag about, but selling us propaganda about how we're best and challenging any criticisms with their question - why does everyone want to come here? (That's one of Cheney's favorite arguments).

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Do we get eggrolls with the tinfoil?

While I buy the theory that China is hanging us with the rope we sold them (to paraphrase Lenin) the Gingrich conspiracy bit is a bit much.

[Cleita]

18. I think we should get the whole #3 family dinner with it.

However, I don't put anything past Newtie. He's trying to position himself for a run for President in 2008. It looks like he's trying "you need me to keep you safe approach", which he seems to think worked so well for Bush that it should work for him a lot better because he is, ahem, so much smarter.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. As H.L. Mencken said about politicians promising safety:

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken

[Double T]

12. All sounds plausible. Hope they build a wall on Chalefornia's.........

northern and eastern border to keep the illegal Chalefornians OUT of 'OUR' country.

[OwnedByFerrets]

14. David Wingrove wrote a fabulous

series of SF novels beginning in 1989. The Chung Kuo series, which is now complete, consists of eight novels about a future in which the Chinese have dominated the world, rewritten history, and built enormous indoor continent-spanning cities three hundred levels in height.
Its chilling in that the future could indeed be so very much like his premise.

[shadowknows69]

15. I've thought about this many times

I think I may take up Mandarin as a second language.

[Cerridwen]

16. Firefly?

A Sci-fi series, short lived, which presented an earth similar to what you said.

[shadowknows69]

25. Just discovered Firefly

awesome show. Saw Serenity before I even knew about it.

[Cerridwen]

27. I "made" my SO sit and watch it - we went through netflix...

we were sad when it was over.

Fun series and Serenity was great, too. It was interesting to watch the special features on the DVD; interviews and the making of and such.

[Greyhound]

17. One thing, I'm pretty sure that Japan is still # 1 in holding our debt.

China has the biggest imbalance of trade, but has quite a way to go to match the bonds the Japanese hold. Somebody could check the back page of "The Economist" to get this months numbers. India is way up on the list too.

World-wide chaos is definitely hurtling down the road right at us, still too early to tell which way it will squish us.

[KoKo]

19. An article posted here on DU last week said Mexico (I kid you not) is the

number #1 or 2 holder of our bond debt. I had trouble believing that but it was the Financial Times or some other source that has some credibility. Japan and China are up there, too, although supposedly they cut back buying in the last year or so...Maybe the Mexicans made up the difference.

And, how Mexico is able to buy our bonds is another question that might cause donning of :tinfoilhat: since their people are streaming over the borders to US. Maybe the source of the money is not Mexico but a silent partner under the guise of Mexico.

[Greyhound]

23. Mexico is the model for the future that the corporatists are imposing on us. n/t

[Porcupine]

20. You must do real estate in California. Because we're sold out.

One of the problems with California real estate is that in the past ten years prices were rising so fast that things like income/PITI ratio's and maintenance costs were irrelevant.

Asian money looking for a refuge has been one of the driving factors in real estate inflation here. Houses and properties were purchased sight unseen by investment groups sometimes literally based upon reports and zip codes. They'll put a Starbucks anywhere.

If you live here and make an average income you cannot afford a house. Kids just don't really see a future beyond McJobs and renting. It's tough.

[hunter]

21. We are sort of like a big Hong Kong.

You didn't know that?

[neoblues]

22. Naw, but they ought to teach a little...

Chinese, Arabic, and Hindi in kindergarten... either that or whatever language the Illuminati are planning to announce as the Official World Language when they achieve the One World Government (what's that, the United States of Gaia or United Emirates of Earth)?

[tom_paine]

26. That's one big shiny f*cking tinfoil hat!

I am in awe.

:crazy: :silly:

[Javaman]

28. Thank you, thank you. LOL I try. :) nt