Wow! Jay Severin just read impeachment demand on Imus right now.

[Skidmore]

I don't usually watch Imus but just caught this. Severin is a right wing radio host who used to be on a lot of cable programs sucking up to * all the time. He asked permission to read something and began reading this lengthy enumeration of *'s high crimes and misdemeanors, ending with a demand that he resign and be impeached. He said he's sorry he ever voted for him and supported the war intially. In the hell freezes over category for the day...

[aquart]

1. Wonder what he considered "high crimes"?

[Skidmore]

3. He read a lengthy list of war related stuff, including

the lies leading up to the war and abuse of powers. He clearly was stating that * was guilting of treason. I wish I had a transcript of it to pass on.

[indepat]

8. Just stating the obvious which must be realized by every RW talking-head and

those who control every RW media outlet still serving as a propaganda arms of the administration instead of telling the people the god-awful truth known to them.

[Donnachaidh]

2. a RW broadcaster is asking for impeachment?

Holy schnikes Batman! Let's hope his thoughts get momentum.... :bounce:

[Jack from Charlotte]

20. Someone needs to pull Severin's previous comments supporting the war...

along with his excoriation of those of us who were correct on the war years ago..... and shove them up his ass.

I nominate........ Keith Oberman.

[cui bono]

32. And what purpose would that serve? You aren't going to win any support

with that behavior. Apparently he said he was sorry he ever supported him, so when someone like that comes around the worst thing you can do is push them away again with that sort of behavior.

[Saturday]

4. I heard it.

It was AWESOME!

[ClintonTyree]

5. All the rats are deserting the sinking Bush Ship of State.

They're knocking each other over, fighting to be first in line off the ship and leaving Bush out there swinging from the yardarms. They're all nothing but a bunch of opportunistic, fair weather "friends" that will run from a fight at the first sign of adversity. They're Republicans, what else need be said?
I'm glad the ship is sinking, but this certainly shows what the RepubliCONS are made of, doesn't it?

[Saturday]

6. I don't care if they're Repulicons or not.

I say, the more the merrier. We need them all to speak out. His diatribe was blistering.

[malaise]

7. Everyone is finally

'gettin it'! To the fugging Hague!

[porphyrian]

9. This is just the beginning.

Most people are still unaware of the things we know here and take for granted. Wait until investigations start bearing fruit next year.

[Ganja Ninja]

12. Yup! The GOP is still holding together but just barely.

Wait until they realize they're going to lose big time in 08 if they don't take some drastic action like proposing impeachment themselves.
I think it will be much better if his own party impeaches him than the Democrats doing it.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. sent., methinks you are onto something here

remember, it was a GOP senator who told Nixon that he would lose GOP votes on impeachment.
It will take someone that bush looks up to in the GOP Senate to send a similar message.

On that note, who is the tallest GOP senator currently in office?

Because a height difference is the only way that shurb looks up to anyone. His arrogance and imcompetence are racing neck and neck to see which will come out ahead.

[cui bono]

33. Problem is Bush looks down on everyone, and not because of height. n/t

[Jacobin]

21. If the republicans were smart (hah), they would LEAD the

impeachment process. BushTheTurd is screwing up their party for the next 50 years and the longer he's in, the worse its going to get.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

35. where's the popcorn?

I like my revenge salty.

[Sherman A1]

10. Wow!

This is a good thing!

[H2O Man]

11. "...it's beyond Nixon..."

I thought it was outstanding for a couple of reasons. The most obvious one is that Severin's presentation could have been taken, almost word for word, from some of the things people have said on DU. The only difference is that he is willing to believe Bush was being honest in his statements before the war.

Perhaps more important is that it shows that a growing number of Americans are thinking what DUers have been saying for some time. And some republicans are actually saying it. And that is very significant, especially in light of Severon's believing Bush had been honest.

This is proof that the hand-wringing crowd who continue to bleat that we should only be aiming for investions simply do not grasp the process. They are afraid of the future. We know that the process begins with investigations. And, yes, yes, a thousand fucking times: YES. We know there aren't the votes needed in the Senate -- YET. But we trust the process. We do not fear the future, so long as we do what we know is right. We trust the Constitution.

[bobbolink]

41. Fear seems to be the basis for much in this country.

It's so hard to understand what this fear of doing "right" is about.

Country before party, folks!

[goclark]

43. Speak H20 Man!

Let's "Bring It On" and get this "Mission Accomplished!"

[WilliamPitt]

49. Excuse me, sir.

This is proof that the hand-wringing crowd who continue to bleat that we should only be aiming for investions simply do not grasp the process. They are afraid of the future.

Bleat? Afraid of the future?

This kind of hyperbole and insulting rhetoric helps nothing and no one. I have argued at length that going into January with impeachment as our main purpose will be counterproductive and destructive, and I have done so without insulting people who disagree with me. I have also done so without fear of anything, and without making animal noises of any kind.

I have great respect for your work and your opinions; in fact, I linger on the fence regarding this issue specifically because of your writings. But this kind of language is unnecessary. I am afraid I must deploy a line I get here from time to time: this is beneath you.

[H2O Man]

50. I think you should

read it again. If you are as capable with the English language as I think you are, and you take a step back from being insulted, you might look at the 16th word in the sentence that you quoted. The language I use is, in fact, necessary.

[WilliamPitt]

51. "only"

by my count.

That doesn't really take the sharp edge off words like "bleat" and "afraid."

MHO.

[H2O Man]

52. That "sharp edge"

is aimed at those who "only" want investigations. There are those who want impeachment; those who want investyigations and have an open mind as to if impeachment should follow; and those who want "only" investigations. I assume that you consider yourself in the second group.

[WilliamPitt]

53. I am

and I see your point.

Go easy, though. There's enough bloodletting on this board without excellent posters like you getting into the fray. Just an opinion.

:toast:

[H2O Man]

54. I always respect your opinion.

And, in fact, I had held back from using Minister Malcolm's infamous story about "those who block progress," from his 12-20-64 speech known as "At the Audubon" ..... tempting as it is ......

[WilliamPitt]

56. Mmmmm...

That would have made things interesting. :)

Cheers.

[Warren Stupidity]

13. Whatever - he remains a two face faux libertarian assclown.

Severin probably figures that the issue will bump his dismal ratings, that it will divide Democrats, and that the primary error Bush committed was not simply nuking Iraq.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. Come On Warren. Don't Hold Back!

Tell us how you really feel about Severin!
The Professor

[patricia92243]

14. What was Imus's reaction?

[Skidmore]

22. Imus hustled him off of the topic as quickly as he could.

So much for the tough guy....

Sorry to take so long getting back to this thread. Had to run some errands.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Say what you will about Severin, he

has consistently been for getting the soldiers out of Iraq YESTERDAY. He says they did their job in toppling Saddam and should have been pulled immediately after that.

[ProfessorGAC]

18. Well I'll Say This About Him Then

He's an idiot. The job of the troops never should have been to topple Hussein. Despite his status as a very bad guy, toppling his regime should never have been a U.S. priority. He was small-time and an easy target. Our military shouldn't have been used for something like this in the first place.

If Severin thinks that was a good use of the soldiers, he's a moron.
The Professor

[Bombtrack]

28. Severin is worse than an idiot. He's like New Englands radio Satan

extremely well-spoken and focus-group trained, as elitist as elitist gets. His whole show is devoted to blowing his audience with appeals of their being "the best and brightest" who need to wake up the parasitic evil dirty underclass of poor people and "different people" who want to change their riteous way of life.

[TheCowsCameHome]

29. Maybe so, but at least he's breaking with the other RW drones

as they continue to defend Bush's war of choice. I don't like Severin, but it's nice to hear someone come right out and say we don't belong over there. Period. Has anyone else in the RW media done this? I haven't heard any of them take this stand.

[KoKo]

37. Well....it's a big turnaround for him...He was all for Clinton Impeachment

and used to be on Geraldo's old show on MSNBC almost every night carrying on about the Sleazy Clinton.

Indeed an "old rat" whose jumping a ship he's been on for a very, very long time...

[bobbolink]

42. And leave the oil in the hands of the Iraqis??? What's the profit in that?

:evilgrin:

[originalpckelly]

19. Well turn me over and slap my bottom! A RWer doing the RIGHT thing?

That must be a record for them.

Bush is toast if more come forward with this call on the right. I hope C&L puts up a video of this.

[petgoat]

23. Paul Craig Roberts, Catherine Austin Fitts, and the Hon. Ron Paul

have been doing to right thing for a long time.

[npincus]

24. audio or video link?

[Skidmore]

26. Sorry, I was just channel surfing and not taping.

I wish I had been though. One other person on this thread heard it too.

If anyone else out there tapes Imus and can get video or audio up on this one, it would be welcomed.

[Jack Rabbit]

25. When the Frat Boy start losing RW radio guys

. . . he's gone.

The jig is up, Frat Boy.

[Bombtrack]

27. Isn't Jay practically working for the Romney '08 campaign ? Doesn't Mitt say the war was right ?

Oh, I remember, Jay Severin is a soulless, hypocritical piece of shit.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

30. Imus still has a show?

that's a damn shame.

[Senator]

31. Here's a bit of it from "The Daily Imus"

The Daily Imus

NEWS QUOTE OF THE DAY:

Imus and Radio talk show host Jay Severin discuss President Bush and his decision to send troops to Iraq.

Imus: "You have to stick with your guy. You can't call for his impeachment."

Jay Severin: "Nope. That's the deal you know, I elect him and his job is to send someone's only son to fight and die when there is a clear and present danger to this country."

Imus: "I happen to agree with you by the way."

Severin: "And I am not prepared to say he was lying when he made that decision. I'm prepared to believe that ..."

Imus: "He knows better now."

Severin: "Pardon me?"

Imus: "He knows better now which is your point."

Severin: "The point is he's known better for a few years and this dunce is sending people's only sons to die while he tries to figure out a way to save face. It's criminal. This is worse. This is beyond Nixon."

I'm not all that surprised. The "Get 'Em! Get 'Em!" crowd is quick to jump on this kind of bandwagon. (Sadly, many of them are really just in it for the violence/punishment -- of anyone.)

Which is why we begged the LieberDems to run the campaign on impeachment. We could have well had bushcheney gone before the election and asked less people to die for a mistake.

--

[cui bono]

34. We didn't want Bush & Cheney gone before the election.

That would have made Hastert president.

[Senator]

39. Well no, "we" certainly did

When the "we" are those who are not seeking to take partisan political advantage from the commission of torture and war crimes.

Even now, "we" have no problem with a process that allows the GOP to keep control of the WH. As long as the war criminals are held fully accountable.

We just want to defend the Constitution from a criminal regime and get the American People off the hook for the atrocities committed in their names.

--

[cui bono]

46. Geez. I could use the old "we" trick too, but being arrogant didn't occur to me.

"We" didn't beg the LieberDems to run the campaign on impeachment.

:eyes:

Surely you understand how politics work and that things have to be done with that in mind.

[Senator]

47. You did use it

Or did that not occur to you either?

All I did was remove the trickery part.

Sorry if you were offended.

(I'm really just kicking the thread.)

--

[Sacajawea]

36. I heard the whole thing. It reminded me of the list of grievances against King George III in the ...

Declaration of Independence.

I was rather surprised to hear him say all this, as previously when I'd heard Severin on Imus he has always sounded like a truly repugnant RW.

[The Witch]

38. Video link? Audio link? :searches:

[bobbolink]

40. Sorry, Jay. Pelosi said "NO"

:P

[goclark]

44. I think/hope she meant that SHE would not put it on the table

But what could she do if someone else put it on the table?

[bobbolink]

48. If you heard her on teevee, as I did, it was unequivocal.

She sold us out.

:thumbsdown:

[pat_k]

45. The Republicans may beat the Dems to the punch. . .

. . .Add Bruce Fein to the list of conservatives for impeachment.

http://www.progressive.org/node/4252

[Fire Walk With Me]

55. We must impeach the entire machine currently infiltrating the government.

A few representative faces won't stop the entire problem-- although it would be quite a heartening start...

[hiboy32]

57. Couldn't believe my ears

Does anyone know where to get a transcript of Severin's indictment, calling for W's impeachment and firing? I couldn't believe my ears when I heard him roll on, "Whereas" after "Whereas" the other morning. Imus brushed him off, which disappointed me and others, I'm sure.