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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:48 AM
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Poll question: Events of the 1860's
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 10:51 AM by RGBolen
There are a couple of posts about another web community's discussion of a "second civil war" here in North America.

What do you refer to the events of the early 1860's as?


On edit, just cleaned up something, nothing changed
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:54 AM
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1. To the victors go the naming rights....n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:15 AM
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2. "War between the States" is grammatically incorrect.
The use of the preposition "between" suggests only two states were involved. If one wants to use this appellation, it should be "The War among the States."
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:58 AM
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3. That, however, seems to imply
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 11:59 AM by ashling
That everyone was fighting everyone else. Pennsylvania vs. New York vs Ohio vs Kentucky vs Indiana vs Louisiana vs et al.

and everybody vs Alabama. :)

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 02:49 PM
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5. That is technically true :)
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:47 PM
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8. not in this case. "the states" are two separate entities, as in, Northern and Southern
so, the war between the (southern and northern) states.

Two sides, therefore between is correct. As another poster said, "war among the states" would seem to imply that states were just fighting each other haphazzardly, and not in an organized, two "state" conflict.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:04 PM
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4. Definition of Civil War
From globalsecurity.org: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/100-20/10020gl.htm

civil war: A war between factions of the same country; there are
five criteria for international recognition of this status: the
contestants must control territory, have a functioning government,
enjoy some foreign recognition, have identifiable regular armed
forces, and engage in major military operations.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 02:51 PM
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6. We call those times "the recent unpleasantness"
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:03 PM
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7. "Not a man shall be a slave.."
"The Battle Cry of Freedom"

Yes, we'll rally round the flag, boys,
We'll rally once again,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom,
We will rally from the hillside,
We'll gather from the plain,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom.

The Union forever, Hurrah! boys, hurrah!
Down with the traitors, Up with the stars;
While we rally round the flag, boys,
Rally once again,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom.

We are springing to the call Of our brothers gone before,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom;
And we'll fill our vacant ranks with
A million free men more,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom.

We will welcome to our numbers The loyal, true and brave,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom;
And although they may be poor,
ot a man shall be a slave,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom.

So we're springing to the call
From the East and from the West,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom;
And we'll hurl the rebel crew
From the land that we love best,
Shouting the battle cry of Freedom.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:49 PM
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9. The sporadic statarian violence.
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