"Civil War:" O'Reilly Says NBC Is Trying To Woo Left-Wing Viewers

[sabra]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,232725,00.html

Is It Civil War in Iraq?
Wednesday, November 29, 2006

By Bill O'Reilly

NBC News has declared that there is indeed a civil war in Iraq. Now that's not shocking, because NBC is the most aggressive anti-Bush network these days, as they have made a calculated effort to woo left-wing viewers.

...

The problem in Iraq is not American. The problem is the Iraqis themselves. They're not fighting for their freedom in a way that puts the bad keys on the defensive.

There is only so much the USA can do. If the Iraqi people are unwilling to challenge the bad guys, the bad guys will win — period.

The vital problem now is how to protect U.S. troops from the bad guys in Iraq. If we pull a John Murtha and bail out, Al Qaeda and Iran win big. But clearly, the status quo will not hold.

If the Bush administration will not consider dividing the country into three autonomous regions, then it must consider allowing the Iraqi military to run the place, much like Musharraf runs Pakistan. Yes, that would be brutal, but clearly, the Iraqi people are not embracing freedom. So imposing order through a military strong man might be the only way.

[Jacobin]

1. Gee. Now Colin Powell is a left winger?

:rofl:

:rofl:

Since Colin just publicly urged Lord Pissypants to acknowledge that reality.

[madmusic]

2. Projection.

The woo-woo is always wooing himself.

[Donnachaidh]

3. Shaddap Bill

go play with your loofah! :sarcasm:

[meegbear]

4. The Iraqi people are not embracing freedom?

It must be from them watching that leftist NBC network, instead of Bill O'Reilly, the voice of reason.

[donco6]

5. Maybe we could put Sadaam back.

He was a military strong man already.

[thereismore]

6. So? Pox Noose made a calculated effort to woo stupid viewers since

day 1.

[Cha]

26. And then Dumb 'em Down

some more. What if most Americans were curious and intelligent? fauxsnooze wouldn't have taken off the ground.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. Imposing order through a military strong man? Isn't that what Saddam was?

Lets see: Rationale #1 for the war: WMDs. Nope, no WMDs.
#2: Links to Al Qaeda. Nope, none of those.
#3: Freedom and Democracy for Iraq. Seeing as the contest is between US approved theocrats and non-US approved theocrats, I Guess that's not gonna happen.
#4: Iraqi self-determination. They've "determined" that the ONLY thing they agree on is, they want the US out. Since O'reilly doesn't want to "lose" by actually GETTING out, he wants to install a "strong man", sounding fairly identical to the one we invaded and deposed.

Can we get our $300 Billion back, then, Bill?

[Ganja Ninja]

8. Sorry Bill'O but they aren't trying to lure left wing viewers.

They see a marketplace that's starved for truth and sick of lies. That's why your ratings are down and theirs are up. Perhaps it's a deliberate move by them or perhaps they have a patriotic sense of conscience and are tired of following the FOX lead.

[aquart]

11. Olbermann's ratings cause attention to be paid.

[waiting for hope]

14. You know this will be talked

about tonight.....KO makes such mischief when kicking OReally's ass.

[Ikonoklast]

9. Iran won the day BushCo decided to invade Iraq

The Neocon Blunderers have done nothing but strengthen Iran's standing in the area. They were told by professional military planners exactly what would happen, yet choose to ignore that intelligence or 'retire' those that disagreed.

The so-called 'bad guys' have already 'won'. Why doesn't O'Really just come out and say that he wants Saddam back in power?

[symbolman]

10. Why doesn't Bill O'Reilly

just go on over there and report from an ON the SPOT location in downtown Bagdad?

Because even Bush won't go there - they'd be carrying O'Reilly's head home in a bowling ball bag, and He KNOWS it..

COWARD during Nam, and COWARD NOW.

Don't forget, more people watch SPONGBOB SQUAREPANTS in the same time slot than O'Reilly :)

Seems like all the media are reporting on each other now, doesn't it? Funny..

[WorseBeforeBetter]

12. My head is about to explode.

According to O'Lielly the Iraqi people are supposedly "unwilling to challenge the bad guys," and the problem is "how to protect U.S. troops from the bad guys in Iraq." If the troops can't be protected, how the hell are "average Iraqis" supposed to be protected?

"Yes, that would be brutal." Isn't that one of the many reasons we invaded in the first place - to get rid of "brutal" Saddam?

"Clearly, the Iraqi people are not embracing freedom." Perhaps they're too busy running for their lives.

I can't even comprehend how unconscionable this war is and what we've done to that country and the Iraqi people. Merry Phucking Christmas, Bill O'Lielly.

[pdxmom]

13. He doesn't explain why they would have to "woo" left-wing viewers

if they are already part of the "liberal media". O'Lielly needs to examine the logic behind his statement. Why would you have to woo the left, if you already were leaning left? So maybe there really isn't a "liberal bias" in the MSM, hmmmm Bill?

[evilgenius602]

17. reality has a well known liberal bias...

[Marr]

18. LOGIC?! What are you- one of those "science" people or something?!

Don't you know that you're supposed to accept the stories you're told without question? Don't you know that the highest virtue is unthinking devotion to the official story?! That critical thought is a sin?!

:)

I see why the right has cultivated the religious extremists in this country. They've been trained from a very young age to believe whatever their guy in the big hat says.

[wishlist]

15. If no civil war, why is Bill's solution to either divide Iraq or install brutal military?

Not surprising that Bill shares Bush's dishonesty and inability to take responsibility for failure.

[Marr]

16. I think it's awfully interesting that the media has suddenly become willing

to call this thing what it is: a "civil war". Right after elections, too. Hmm. If I didn't know better, I'd say that the power balance in Washington skews the way news is covered in this country.

[AngryOldDem]

19. So, Bill, shall we bring back Saddam?

>>So imposing order through a military strong man might be the only way.>>

And my follow-up, Mr. O'Reilly: How can we honestly declare "victory" if restoring a dictatorship is the only way out of this quagmire?

[KharmaTrain]

20. It's Cause Of Your Sinkin' Ratings BillO...

Oooh, I get a chance to play KO here.

Let's look at the latest ratings...shall we?

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp

The Scoreboard: Monday, November 27
MSNBC beats CNN in primetime:

25-54 demographic: (LS)

Total day: FNC: 235 | CNN: 146 | MSNBC: 138 | HLN: 121 | CNBC: 55

Prime: FNC: 386 | CNN: 175 | MSNBC: 226 | HLN: 212 | CNBC: 40

5p: 6p: 7p: 8p: 9p: 10p: 11p:
FNC Gibson: Hume: Shep: O'Reilly: H&C: Greta: O'Reilly:
228 290 300 450 385 324 260

CNN Blitzer: Dobbs: Blitzer: Zahn: King: Cooper: Cooper:
162 235 240 226 163 137 152

MSNBC Matthews: Carlson: Matthews: Countdo.: Scarbo.: Reports: Investig.:
136 97 206 320 206 151 298

HLN HLN: Prime: Beck: Grace: Beck: Grace: Showbiz:
176/154 147 195 214 178 244 155


Data by Nielsen Media Research. Live and same day (DVR) data.

Faux's numbers continue to slide...while MSNBC's have been on the rise, passing CNN at night and within striking distance as Faux's audience continues to erode by 5-10% a month and MSNBC has risen by double digits.

BillO's gotta be feelin' the heat...his last book is now in cut out bins and he needs to find ways to stay relevant.

Hopefully more Faux internal memos will come out detailing how this fraud RNC organization continues to lie and deceive their audience.

[zbdent]

21. Wasn't the RW mantra that "mainstream news" was too liberal already

and losing ratings?

Now, if NBC is trying to attract "lefties", wouldn't that imply an admission that NBC was wayyyyy too right-wing for profits' tastes?

[Zodiak]

22. This pic says all about BOR's attitide

[Cass]

23. Bill O'Reilly should stick to contemplating falafels. His opinion is of no more importance

than anyone else's even though he apparently thinks he is the best thing to happen to this nation since sliced bread.

As for NBC wooing liberal viewers, I'll believe it when I see it, but if they are, SO WHAT? I guess Bill thinks Faux News is the only one who is allowed to aim for a specific audience. :eyes:

[warrens]

24. Bill is jumping on the Saddam bandwagon

This is hilarious. Betcha KO has a piece tonight on that. Man, how fucking stupid can this guy get. Bring in a ruthless military dictator???? HAHAHAHAHAHA

[hamletsophelia]

25. regardless it's there problem, let them deal with it