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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:34 PM
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Is this woman nuts or what?
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 01:40 PM by chaska
I've had this on my desktop for a couple weeks now, not sure why. But I've been trying to resist writing this woman. Yesterday I succumbed.

I was very polite; but then reading the article again last night, perhaps I should have written something a bit less conciliatory. This lady is just effin' nuts. Her reply was very brief. She essentially just forwarded a response from a fellow nut visiting Kentucky from Australia. See below.

She also mentioned - when I suggested she study both sides of an issue before writing about it - that she'd read enough Chomsky in grad school, yada, and that she reads Krugman for a laugh.

I ask you, does this sound like the writing of an educated person. Half of her sentences make no sense. And it's all short declarative statements ... just like our man Bush, with no evidence to back up her claims.

But ya gotta love how she values the life of a soldier from Kentucky more highly than a twelve year old boy with an uzi (her fan really liked that line of reasoning). That's just wrong on so many levels. I'm tempted to write back and remind her that Hitler made similar choices.

I've read some stupid stuff, but this one just totally boggles the mind.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/editorial/15986574.htm

Hippies still trying to ruin the country
By Jenean Mcbrearty
CONTRIBUTING COLUMNIST


America won't win another war until the 1960s flower children are pushing up petunias.

Radicalized, the flower children morphed into lefty loonies who now masquerade as social progressives. No matter what they rename themselves, however, their agenda hasn't changed.

(randon snip)

Thus, lefty loonies deny that terrorists have declared war on America, while insisting that we can win the war through negotiation. They seem to believe the terrorists will spare them because they are nice.

The truth is that there is no way out of our modern warfare dilemmas.

Is it possible to protect non-combatants, given modern weaponry in total war?

Are people who make weapons innocent citizens of their warring governments, or integral non-uniformed soldiers and legitimate targets?

Must we surrender our country to our enemies because our weapons are too terrible to use?

Whose life is more important: the 12-year-old Iraqi firing an Uzi or a soldier from Kentucky?

Which is more sacred: a mosque hiding a weapons cache or a plane of tourists?

Do we want a military strong enough to protect our homeland? Are we willing to pay the price of survival?

It's crucial that we come to terms with war questions because we will have war with Iran and North Korea. It will come down to their children or ours, their soldiers or ours, their countries or ours.

For aging hippies, it's easier to keep blaming old enemies than to confront new ones, especially the young and ruthless. Hating a military-industrial complex is safer and less tiring. It's less complicated -- and less dangerous.

Abstract institutions neither bleed nor shoot back. Demonstrations, marches and sign-carrying don't accomplish much these days, but they are a lot more fun and allow the fiction of activist moral superiority to persist.

Their BAWL (Buddha-Allah-Wicca-Lenin) is better than some old Judeo-Christian God.

(another random snip)

Jenean McBrearty lives in Lexington. E-mail her at jeneanmacb@hotmail.com.

Fan's response:

Hi Jenean,
I am Australian, & working for a few months in Lexington.

(snip)

I am writing to congratulate you on a truly sensational article. You
have
voiced what I have thought for many many years. Not necessarily about
the
hippies, at home we call a lot of them feral lefties, sadly they are
the
same there as well. They love being able to live the good life while
berating the lifestyle, criticising it at every opportunity.
Hypocrites of
the highest order.
Your sentence 'Whose life is more important: the 12-year-old firing an
Uzi
or a soldier from Kentucky' hit the nail right on the head, & for me,
it
seems to be the problem with the military these days. Not the
military's
fault per se, as everything rolls downhill from the politicians &
lawmakers,
but I think that since you lot dropped the big one in WWII, there has
been
this mindset that how the world perceives the United States is much
more
important than the lives of those fighting for the principles we live
by.
In Korea, they could have gone over the border but chose not to, same
in
Vietnam, they could have gone into the north, but didn't, and in the
process, allowed far too many of the soldiers and other military to die
because they didn't want to be seen as the bad guys. For #$*+'s sake,
it is
a war.
The hostage takeover in Iran, and the standoff for over a year. A bit
of
military muscle would have put a stop to that, just as when Ronald
Reagan
was voted in the Iranians decided to let them go. Next there was
Somalia.
Why should 18 of the military, mainly Rangers I think, die because the
orders were not to fire at so-called non-combatants, many of whom were
surrounding the militias deliberately, as they knew of the American
policies, with many of these so-called noncombatants wielding weapons.
Just
like the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, doing their bad things behind
human
shields. And on it goes in Iraq. Far too many have died because of
the
government's worry that the world will hate you even more if too many
civilians are killed. Not in any way do I condone the killing of
innocents,
especially children, but this is a war that is being fought, many will
die,
and everything must be done to protect those on the ground, in the air,
or
at sea. None of this bullshit about not firing until fired upon. I
am
amazed that the soldiers are so professional, in most cases, to be
doing
just this, to their detriment.
Personally I have not had to put myself in situations like that, the
best I
can claim in 23 years of military life in the RAN, was being payroll
sentry,
where as a 17 year old I was armed with a pistol, after the obligatory
lessons on handling and firing, etc, and the same orders were given, we
were
not to fire unless given the order or already fired upon. And that was
back
in '74. Unbelievable.
Please keep up the good work. Have only read the one article, but it
is an
absolute belter. Such commonsense, and such compassion for your own
countrymen and women in peril overseas defending our way of life.
Those who
think otherwise and don't care that your soldiers are dying are not
worth a
bullet, they truly disgust me.
I cannot commend this article highly enough. And please don't think me
a
warmonger, for wanting to protect the lives of our militaries over
there in
Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd rather it be them than ours, no matter who
it is,
as horrible as that may sound. SOSF is a good acronym, Save Our
Soldiers
First.

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:37 PM
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1. Since this goofy columnist is so hawkish, wonder if she, or her
kids/grandkids, or other near relatives, are in the military?

I wouldn't bet on it. :-)
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:38 PM
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2. Sorry to go OT right off the bat
but you might want to edit if that's your real name there at the bottom.

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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:40 PM
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3. It's the Aussie, but will do. Thanks.
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:41 PM
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4. Oh, sure, I see it now.
Thanks for responding.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:44 PM
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5. This is the sort of person who shoots _________ other people through
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 01:46 PM by patrice
the window of their homes while they prepare dinner and look forward to a little night's rest, before getting up in the morning and doing "it" again.

Seriously, this is a person looking for an excuse to do what the rest of us refer to as "Terrorism".

Fucking sick . . . .

Plus, she doesn't know what she's talking about and doesn't have a clue about anything Real.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:45 PM
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6. Both these people have no clue, do they?
we are all interconnected-what is done to one eventually comes back to us. Perhaps if they had taken time to truly read the words of the enlightened beings (such as Jesus)they would not have said the words they did. Personally, I'd simply "shake the sand" of their thoughts from my shoes and go elsewhere.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:53 PM
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9. I'm an atheist, but a big fan of the Jesus dude....
I think that is an avenue that really needs to be explored; let's kick their asses with religion. They just don't get how at odds they are with their god.

Personally, I'm not one to wipe my feet and go on my way, but whatever. Everybody got their own path.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:49 PM
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7. What gets me is this dedication to winning, winning, winning, but how the heck....
do you win when you don't know why you're there or what the objective is?

No questioning whatsoever as to the rightness of "our" cause. That doesn't matter, win, win, win! Hoo-fuckin'-rah!
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evilgenius602 Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:53 PM
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8. she's a full blown 12 cylinder whaskaloon...
on so many levels it's hard to know where to begin...

I'll limit myslef to the "12 year old with the uzi in bagdad" part. She need prove her ineptitude no further. The Uzi is of Israeli manufacture, is expensive as hell, is as rare as hens teeth. He might have an AK-47, but, and I'm going way out on a limb here, if she can show this alleged 12 year old, I will renounce my ideaology and drink the Bush coolaid
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:55 PM
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11. YES! On both points. I don't know guns, but I thought she was wrong about that.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:54 PM
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10. Another Coulter wanna be.
I'm torn between reacting to such and giving it more power.

Or -

Ignoring it completely and trying to make it 0.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:57 PM
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12. BINGO! I understand your ambivalence. Been there.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:03 PM
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15. Yeah, the attraction of reacting to it, and making Something out of it,
is that my reaction might influence the context in which she operates. Someone might hear something they didn't know, or take a perspective, however temporarily, that they would not have taken otherwise.

But I suppose for every one that I might possibly influence, there is at least one, probably more, that she influences by virtue of the fact that "we" are making something of her and what she says, so reacting to her is quite probably at least a wash, or at worst gives her more influence on others.

So, making her = 0 is best and we have to figure out how to interact with those others around her without her and her ilk.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:00 PM
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13. The implication here, of course, is that everyone who voted against Bush
Is a hippie traitor. Ridiculous on its face, even if you accepted the rest of her drivel. The people who protested against Nam are of a particular age: about 55-60. And they made up a small fraction of that age group. She's too sick in the head to make sense.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:02 PM
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14. She has no mechanism for empathy.
I would hope most people could wear someone else's moccasins for just a few seconds at least. Just imagine what she would be saying if someone came over here, looking for some gang of criminals, and they ended up laying waste to . . . Louisville. No concern for bystanders or other innocents - they were just determined to get the "bad guys" and it didn't matter how horrible their weapons or methods were. What do you think Miss "hippies-are-evil" would be writing then?

We are so spoiled here, not having seen the consequences of war. We think it's all TV blood and fake anger. If any group is the real problem, it's chickenhawks like this dipshit who don't understand what war is all about.

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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:07 PM
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16. I had several email exchanges with her a couple weeks ago over that piece.
She is batshit nuts. :puke:
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:09 PM
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17. I was wondering if there were others. Anything to share?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:10 PM
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18. I'm pretty sure I deleted them but will look.
KS
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:32 PM
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20. I found some of them in the trash bin...here ya go
Here's what I managed to scrounge up...the formatting is a little weird from the copy/paste but it's readable...




My first email:

> From: Karl Schneider <krs@valornet.com>

>
>
>
> This is satire, right? A badly conceived joke? You should write for
> The Onion.
>
> Or elsewise get some professional help.
>
>
>
> How about those midterm elections, idiot child? HAHAHAHAHAHA
>
>
>
> FOAD
>
>
>
> Signed,
>
> a loony liberal and military vet.
>
>





==================================================================
==================================================================

Her reply:




Thanks for enjoying.

However, the article was not about the elections, Iraq, or democrats or republicans. It was about the conitnuing influence of

a generation of self-absorbed, self-rightcheous, affluent I-can-always-go-home-to mama neo-communists who give us such

"progressive" things as ummmm ... aborting full-term babies by shooting poison into their hearts in the name of "aborition

rights" (such are the wonders of the social utopia to come.) using anti-militarism to undergird their moral superiority as

countries like Iran build their nuclear arsenals. Please re-read the article and respond to the one I wrote, not the one you

think I wrote. In any case, this "idiot child" didn't write the article for you. I wrote if for people like, well, read on:

Jenean,

Very well done. As a former Marine Aviator and Viet Nam veteran, I was impresssed and pleased by your editorial. They never

seem to get much criticism as they enjoy their free ride. Of course, the Clinton's made it very easy for them to continue

their entilement and righteousness. My many veteran friends have learned over the years to just ignore that element and not

let them bother us, as they so effectively did in the 70's and 80's. It's just nice to see the criticism of their agenda so

well articulated. Thank you.


Bless you:

Your warning about 2008 should be heeded. If we elect the aging hippies, we will spend the next 4 years doing focus groups

trying to decide how to defeat the homicidal sons of Allah without spending any money that might buy a Dem vote or

offending anyone anywhere for any reason.

Make that last one a good one.

Jerry

Dear Ms. McBreaty,

I would like to say thank you for your article, "Hippies still trying to ruin
the country!" I am the proud wife of a US Army Sergeant and I appreciate
greatly this article. I myself have written many newspapers, including the
Lexington Herald-Leader, in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and my husband,
but I guess that they would rather print anti-war/anti-Bush views instead of
those of a military spouse. I guess that the "fair" media in our area would
only like to mention the bad news instead of the good things that are taking
place in Iraq.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you because your article says most of what I
have been trying to say from the initial invasion up to today! Thanks again!

Sincerely,
Trina
Proud Wife of SGT XXXX
Irvine

There are more, but you get the piicture. There are people in the world for whom
a neo-Marxist agenda, and the Liberal-loonies who espouse it, is not fashionable. PS The elections were predictable and

didn't surprise me a bit.

Regards
Jenean

=====================================================================================================================
=====================================================================================================================


My 2nd email:

You might consider proofreading, a course in English composition or a
spell-checker before you attempt a clever extemporaenous reply. That
said,

it's hardly surprising you were preaching to the choir, as it
were...your respondents must own stock in an apostrophe company, they
certainly appear to

like to insert them at every (in)opportunity. Your cadre of
fellow-travelling Bushbots (I imagine they worship Ann Coulter) do, as
you seem to as well,

labor under the odd impression that we who want peace are
'Communists.' Are you perhaps one of the seriously deluded who still
imagine Saddam

Hussein had something to do with 9/11 even though your Dear Leader
publicly denied the claim on national TV?



As concerns "social utopia" (you aren't really very good with sarcasm),
most people would imagine the absence of war, poverty, hate,
misanthropy,

hypocrisy and prejudice would be a good start. Apparently you have
another scenario in mind. It might help if you stop lying - nobody has
suggested

aborting 'full term babies' as you so delicately put it, and opposing
the illegal and immoral invasion and occupation of a sovereign country
using lies as

'justification' hardly equates to anti-militarism. Maybe the 2,865
U.S. troops who have been killed in this Bush Fiasco don't mean
anything to you but

they sure as hell do to us 'peaceniks' you evidently despise. So you
have some letters of support from equally disinterested parties...I say
a pox on all

your houses, you haven't lost anything or sacrificed shit for the Iraq
debacle and blaming and mischaracterizing those of us who oppose it is
the last resort

of a coward. And that goes double for the Bush cabal.



Karl Schneider



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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:40 PM
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22. Whew, Karl. You're a nasty ol' bugger....
Well done!

She really is every bit the twit I imagined.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:48 PM
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26. LOL! There's probably no danger of me being appointed ambassador
to anyplace...
:D
:rofl:
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:56 PM
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27. You're the BADwill ambassador???
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 02:57 PM by chaska
Let's see, what country needs the smile wipe offa they face....
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:35 PM
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21. Thanks, asshole.
...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:45 PM
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24. Welcome to DU!
:hi:



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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:45 PM
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25. D'rats? I LIKE IT!
Been nice knowin' ya. So long. Have a nice life. :hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:41 PM
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23. Ann Coulter?
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 02:42 PM by Swamp Rat

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