Connect the Dots .... Iran & Iraq sign treaty & Maliki blows off bush.

[Botany]

Pulled from 2 DU threads
Thanx to Purveyor & Sydnie

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2006/11/29/international/i102533S99.DTL

Iraq's president said Wednesday he had reached a security agreement with Iran, which the United States
accuses of fueling the chaos in the war-torn country. Iran's president called on countries to stop backing
"terrorists" in Iraq and for the Americans to withdraw.


Presidents Jalal Talabani of Iraq and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran held talks Wednesday hours before U.S.
President George W. Bush was due to meet with the Iraqi prime minister in Jordan in talks aimed at finding
a solution to Iraq's spiraling bloodshed.

Ahmadinejad vowed that Iran "will stand by its Iraqi brothers," saying "no one can divide nations of Iran and Iraq."

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White House counselor Dan Bartlett denied that the move was a snub by al-Maliki or was related to the leak of a White House memo questioning the prime minister's capacity for controlling violence in Iraq.

"Absolutely not," Bartlett said." He said the king and the prime minister had met before Bush arrived from a NATO summit in Latvia. "It negated the purpose for a meeting of the three of them," Bartlett said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061129/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush

And as a shout to the Freepers "this is hugh!"

[iconoclastic cat]

1. I really wonder what the hell could be going on. nt

[Botany]

5. No way that Iran & Iraq signed this deal on the day bush was ...

.... supposed to meet Maliki was "random chance." This was
an in your face snub.

[mom cat]

19. Maliki's snub probably has more to do with the walkout of Sadr's

supporters in protest of the meting with Bush:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2824124

All politics is local and the locals have said Hell No!Maliki is finisned without Sadr and he knows it. Given the choice he would pick Sadr over Bush anyday.

[tecelote]

2. Maybe...

the meeting was canceled because al-Maliki refuses to negotiate with terrorists?

[symbolman]

3. You betcha it Negated the meeting

Bush is now irrevelent, he's created a power vaccum in the middle east that can only be filled by Iran, unless he hands over Iraq to his pals in Saudi Arabia, but I'm sure that Baker is working on that now..

Baker is the guy to watch, not Bush..

While Bush is out running around the REAL men behind the curtains are making the wheels go round..

good call :)

[acmavm]

7. Regardless of who's in charge of what, the one thing I can see

for sure in the immediate future is more dying. Our side, Iraqi civilians, the 'insurgency' (that's a frigging joke, a sick frigging joke. They're only people who don't want to bow down to neocon imperialism.) Whoever.

The last guy standing is going to be the guy in charge.

[symbolman]

11. Yep

that and the flow of money and oil.. With Bechtel leaving we can see that the money is drying up in some quarters, but Halliburton will never leave, like a tapeworm they'll hang in there until the host dies, and then go, "Uh oh.."

Time to RE-ENACT the War Profitteering ACT. NOW.

[elehhhhna]

14. Isn't it rumoured that SA is running out of oil? Wouldn't the gift of Iraq

be a lovely way for the same sorry bastard BushFriends to keep making money?

Does Iraq see that handover coming and want to preempt it by cuddling up with Iran?

Am I oversimplifying?

[symbolman]

18. Naw, you can never simplify enough

Look at Einstein's E=MC 2, True Genius is making the big things digestable :)

Power vaccuum, Iran has the ability to protect itself, DESTROY All Oil trade worldwide with a few missles, are geographically safe from insertion groundwise, and wants ALL the Oil in the region. Sounds simple enough..

Especially when a GOVT PUPPET is installed by the US and then HE runs to the Iranians, that's pretty simple, he wants to LIVE :)

[cui bono]

21. How can you call yourself symbolman

when you can't even make a proper MC²?

;)

[symbolman]

24. I'm more of a

Joseph Campbell kind of guy.. and stuck in the woods with the in laws using a diesel powered modem right now, gotta use the pull chain, like a chain saw :)

Thanks for the fix!

[evilgenius602]

4. I love it when the Spokesthing has no choice but to bald face lie like a rug

[malaise]

6. George Bush has fugged up big time

Bush has just lost any chance of links in the Middle East. It is over.

[partylessinOhio]

8. Beautiful! Iran and Iraq did what our Congress won't do -

they have Impeached the Decider!

:party:

[Little Star]

22. Iran and Iraq have Impeached the Decider=nutshell!!!

Good One!!

[endarkenment]

9. Cheney heads to Riyad, marines reported to plan pull out of al anbar

Hey Get Your Full Blown No Holes Barred Civil War Right Here!

It looks like we intend to widen the conflict.

[CJCRANE]

10. Looks like "shock and awe" backfired big-time

for Bush-Cheney's Saudi backers.

Will there be a Shia vs Sunni Cold War/arms race in the Middle East now?

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

12. We were the tools and dupes of Iran from the get-go

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/05/04/chalabi/index.html

How Ahmed Chalabi conned the neocons
The hawks who launched the Iraq war believed the deal-making exile when he promised to build a secular democracy with close ties to Israel. Now the Israel deal is dead, he's cozying up to Iran -- and his patrons look like they're on the way out. A Salon exclusive.

By John Dizard

Pages 1 2 3 4 5May 4, 2004 | When the definitive history of the current Iraq war is finally written, wealthy exile Ahmed Chalabi will be among those judged most responsible for the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq and topple Saddam Hussein. More than a decade ago Chalabi teamed up with American neoconservatives to sell the war as the cornerstone of an energetic new policy to bring democracy to the Middle East -- and after 9/11, as the crucial antidote to global terrorism. It was Chalabi who provided crucial intelligence on Iraqi weaponry to justify the invasion, almost all of which turned out to be false, and laid out a rosy scenario about the country's readiness for an American strike against Saddam that led the nation's leaders to predict -- and apparently even believe -- that they would be greeted as liberators. Chalabi also promised his neoconservative patrons that as leader of Iraq he would make peace with Israel, an issue of vital importance to them. A year ago, Chalabi was riding high, after Saddam Hussein fell with even less trouble than expected.

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Now his power is slipping away, and some of his old neoconservative allies -- whose own political survival is looking increasingly shaky as the U.S. occupation turns nightmarish -- are beginning to turn on him. The U.S. reversed its policy of excluding former Baathists from the Iraqi army -- a policy devised by Chalabi -- and Marine commanders even empowered former Republican Guard officers to run the pacification of Fallujah. Last week United Nations envoy Lakhdar Brahimi delivered a devastating blow to Chalabi's future leadership hopes, recommending that the Iraqi Governing Council, of which he is finance chair, be accorded no governance role after the June 30 transition to sovereignty. Meanwhile, administration neoconservatives, once united behind Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress he founded, are now split, as new doubts about his long-stated commitment to a secular Iraqi democracy with ties to Israel, and fears that he is cozying up to his Shiite co-religionists in Iran, begin to emerge. At least one key Pentagon neocon is said to be on his way out, a casualty of the battle over Chalabi and the increasing chaos in Iraq, and others could follow.

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Chalabi's ties to Iran -- Israel's most dangerous enemy -- have also alarmed both his allies and his enemies in the Bush administration. Those ties were highlighted on Monday, when Newsweek reported that "U.S. officials say that electronic intercepts of discussions between Iranian leaders indicate that Chalabi and his entourage told Iranian contacts about American political plans in Iraq." According to one government source, some of the information he gave Iran "could get people killed." A Chalabi aide denied the allegation. According to Newsweek, the State Department and the CIA -- Chalabi's longtime enemies -- were behind the leak: "the State Department and the CIA are using the intelligence about his Iran ties to persuade the president to cut him loose once and for all."

[Tatiana]

13. And the Bush cabal is who made this happen.

This is so FUBAR.

Really, we need someone in the White House STAT before this situation really spirals and has globally devastating consequences.

Impeachment has never seemed more necessary.

[Botany]

15. Not only has this hurt our chances to get bin Laden and the real ...

.... terrorists but bush's actions has strengthened bush's good friend
Israel 2 biggest threats Iran & Hamas. The situation is now with out
a doubt out of any sort of U.S. control.

If bin Laden is still alive bet you he is laughing his ass off.

[Qutzupalotl]

20. See, Bush IS a uniter after all.

Who else could bring Iran and Iraq together against us?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

16. Where's that damn pic of shrub in his flightsuit?

The one with the "mission accomplished" banner in the background and plastic turkey waiting in the wings?

I reread this article (propaganda leading up to the war) today:

From Fear to Freedom

(Posted December 2002)


Saddam Hussein's Iraq represents a threat to the peace and security of the world because it is the crossroads where weapons of mass destruction, state support for terrorism, international aggression, and a sustained assault on human rights converge in a single place, under a single tyrant. In his address to the United Nations on September 12, 2002, President George W. Bush said:

The history, the logic, and the facts lead to only one conclusion: Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger. To suggest otherwise is to hope against the evidence. To assume this regime's good faith is to bet the lives of millions and the peace of the world in a reckless gamble. And this is a risk we must not take.

The international community has now taken an important step to meet the threat that Iraq poses by rising up and speaking in a single voice through the United Nations to demand disclosure and destruction of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction — immediately and unconditionally. Furthermore, U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441 — adopted on November 8, 2002, by a unanimous vote of 15-0 — confirms that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations. It also states that any additional breaches will result in serious consequences. Following the Security Council's action, President Bush said:

The resolution approved today presents the Iraqi regime with a test — a final test. Iraq must now, without delay or negotiations, fully disarm, welcome full inspections, and fundamentally change the approach it has taken for more than a decade.
More...
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/iraq/


Lies. Death. Destruction. For what? Not the freedom or better interest of the people of Iraq, that's obvious.

Edit: formatting

[Sydnie]

23. Not for our safety either

It was all for money, oil, and power. The only thing they actually got was the money. The power is now gone (Political Capitol One --- what's in his wallet? ) and the oil will be under somone elses control soon enough.

As said up thread - FUBAR is right!

[European Socialist]

17. This is Hugh!! C'mon Iraq --kick us out.