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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:18 PM
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I've wanted to write this for months:
Ther second best part of all this, and you all know what I mean by 'all this', is that those idiots, those closed-minded fools, those arrogant sons-of-bitches who, during the recount of 2000 wanted this guy so badly...got him; in spades.

It didn't occur to these 'folks' for an instant that he was supremely unqualified, supremely uninformed, supremely incurious, supremely impaired in so many ways. Simply, he was solely Supremely appointed 5-4. They undermined the entire democracy, compromised the whole Republic, in order to place their guy. And what a guy he turned out to be.

For my money, he did not disappoint. He managed to do everything I was certain he would do and more. He and his 'advisors', read: puppeteers, gutted as much of the New Deal/Great Society/Progressive infrastructure as possible, entered two wars which were unwinnable, the first against the same country responsible for toppling the Soviet Empire, and the second, against a civilization which was extant and active when Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were born. The Texans were certainly going to show these 'folks' a thing or two. Meanwhile, back at the Ranch, the 1984/Mein Kampf/Soylent Green crew was hard at work parsing all documents and outcomes in fashions which would make Orwell spin in his grave, or Hitler proud. Like Hitler, Napoleon, and others of their ilk, they overreached militarily and now we are on our heels - a situation which we of the Vietnam era cannot believe occurred once again within our lifetimes. "Inconceivable!" as Wallace Shawn once said over and over and over again.

And the citizens sufferred, ironically, a case may be made that the Red State folks bore the brunt of the misery including the military which has been terribly abused and of course the Katrina Victims.

Ah, Katrina. For this was the break-the-back moment of this Presidency. All this fellow had to do was send in that General as soon as the rains stopped and he would have been a 'hero' "again", the first time he was a 'hero' of course is when he stepped up on that pile of rubble, having flown all over the place like Brave Sir Robin in the Python film. But he didn't. They miscalculated, thinking that Americans would see poor black welfare types in New Orleans. But the citizenry, to their credit, saw human beings dying of thirst, of hunger, and of medical conditions which ought never to exist within a civilized society. They saw themselves standing there hopeless and helpless and that was that. It was the same moment as when Senator Joe McCarthy had attacked Ike's minister, and Ike snubbed McCarthy at an official function. That was it - it was over. People realized that the government existed to prevent this type of horror and there were no excuses - no parsing of the English language could make up for the pictures of the floating dead, the blankets over corpses in wheelchairs, the children separated from their parents - a technique the Nazis perfected, and infinitely more situations which we decry in the Third World countries.

There will be much more to this story...I believe that there will be high drama and much to discuss and watch on television and discuss online. It is time to watch Act II.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:21 PM
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1. k/r
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:28 PM
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2. It took a category 5 hurricane to strip Bush of just enough media protection that
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 07:28 PM by blm
the American people could get their REAL LIFE glimpse into this asshole the media had sold as a stoic, heroic figure for 5 years.

You are off to a great start, PC.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 06:21 PM
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34. The M$M did their best during Katrina
to paint the people of NO in a very bad light. We were supposed to believe that hordes or raving black people would be flooding the country in a major crime wave. Except all the pictures showed poor elderly black people who desparately needed some help.

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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:28 PM
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3.  I can remember, in 2000 my husband trying to cheer
me up. His words haunt us both. They were " Never mind hon, how much damage can he do in 4 years?"

I echo every sentiment of your post however, I think this situation is going way beyond 'High Drama'.

k&r
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:46 AM
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19. I said exactly the same thing your husband said!
Bush43 seemed like such an ineffectual putz, I couldn't believe he'd be any more than a bookmark. Now every time I step back and look at this administration as a whole, I'm flabbergasted.

Our grandchildren will wonder how the hell this happened and the only real answer will be we didn't see the forest for the trees. We (and by 'we' I mean Americans as a whole, not necessarily DUers) were so caught up in the daily minutiae and so focused on the giant redwood that was 9/11, it took us six years to begin to grasp the totality of it.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:59 AM
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20. Me too
Once I resigned myself to another Bush in the White House, I was grateful that we have a constitutionally protected system of checks and balances...

Too bad so many in Congress couldn't hold up their part of that responsibility.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 06:23 PM
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35. I remember my mother, the appellate lawyer, saying "I think the Republic will survive."
She was right, but it's been a lot closer a call than anyone imagined.
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:28 PM
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4. I remember that hissing snake Baker in 2000
The democrats aren't counting votes they are creating votes.

Now we are to wait for him to come down from the mountain with his wisdom?

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 07:11 AM
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15. ...and he's back.
Reminds me of Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis (a.k.a. Frank Fiorini) who just kept popping up over and over and over again. It's all the same folks, the only thing that changes is the scandal.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:30 PM
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26. Exactly. The only thing that changes is the scandal
If at any point these gangsters had been locked up, we wouldn't be watching the greatest free country in the world do the Titanic. I always start with JFK's assassination just because there are limits to time and resources - some like to go back further. Consider that the President of the United States was gunned down in broad daylight, and the American people were told that we didn't have the right to know who did it. For whatever their report was worth, the Warren Commission locked its findings away for the future to read, but not for us, an alledgedly free and democratic people, to know. We should have suspected then that we were screwed.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:28 PM
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5. What you said. KnR.
Dubya is everything and more that Molly Ivins tried to warn the nation about. He has become our walking nightmare.

I hope -- I hope -- that those who elevated him to this position, for whatever reason base or vainglorious, will in their lifetimes find it hard to quell their personal demons by day or night. May they all feel shame. May some of them go to prison.

Hekate

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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:28 PM
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6. Republican fools want everyone to be just like them even if
being like them is so destructive to our Democracy.

You are sooo - on the money - with with your post, PCIntern.

Thanks for expressing yourself.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:35 PM
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8. You're welcome...
it's a pleasure, believe me.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:30 PM
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7. its nice to think that the Repigs are getting screwed, like they deserve, but
its just too damn bad that they had to drag all of us down with them
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:10 PM
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11. Just remember:
Omelettes and eggs...omelettes and eggs...omelettes and eggs.

Say 10000 times and you'll start to feel better...
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:40 PM
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9. interesting resource with related links...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 08:04 PM
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10. I agree, Katrina was the turning point..
it finally got a lot of people off the kool-aid. WORST PRESIDENT EVER, and it happened in our lifetimes.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:18 PM
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12. And the last 6 years are merely a prelude to the disaster
in the Middle East that is about to erupt.

Saudis and Sunnis against Iraqi Shias and Iran, with the other countries thrown into the mix of a giant bloodbath........oh the oil, the oil!!!
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:02 AM
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13. There's a Katrina waiting for us in every policy area...
...in foreign policy there's Iraq

...in environmental issues there's denial of global warming (and a lot more)


We'll see disasters crop up for a long time due to this administration's reckless, arrogant, corporatist, incurious, approach to governing. Governing is the wrong word...plundering, stealing, mismanaging, torpedoing, etc.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:16 AM
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14. Absolutely
Let's hope that the waste of human skin leaves office before we HAVE another Katrina-level event. There's already several going on, and frankly, I think one more will break the infrastructure of the country and of our economy.

IMHO, YMMV.
Julie
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:43 PM
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27. Katrina. Don't forget the Katrina of debt.
If they ever run out of ways to prop up the dollar, it'll be Katrina for our whole country...well, except for the super rich who buy our government and the media that pisses on us and tells us it's raining.

Oops! Am I fomentin? Am I fomentin class warfare?

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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:45 PM
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29. Yep. Katrina of debt
Katrina of health care

Katrina of education

Katrina of stock market

Katrina of Israel/Palestine

Katrina of outsourcing



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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 02:40 PM
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30. That sounds very prescient. Scarily so. Economics apart, I've
been thinking almost entirely of what is going to come to light, but it seems more than likely that we've seen most of the currently ongoing catastrophes in their infancy.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 07:22 AM
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16. Dead. Cold. Stinkin'. BRILLIANT.
You let this dish simmer until its flavor was at the peak (pique?) of perfection--and I see you have served it up cold.

Well DONE!

:bounce:
dbt
Remember New Orleans

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 07:24 AM
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17. Great post n/t
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:35 AM
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18. k&r
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:17 AM
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21. When he has been given lesser authority....
He has screwed up to a lesser degree. When he has been given greater authority, he has screwed up to a greater degree. Bottom line, he will screw up whatever he is involved with. This time, it is the world.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:22 AM
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22. Heh. You had me at "brave Sir Robin."
:evilgrin:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:33 AM
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23. In my salad days, I could quote Virgil and Emerson....
now I quote Monty Python...Reverse intellectualism which parallels the 'leadership' in this country.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:47 AM
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24. It may be
That our failure as the people to not participate fully in our democracy is what allowed this to happen. No, not maybe, it is our fault.

We sat back and let them steal one election after another. Even now we are so complacent about election theft that it could easily be stolen again.

We deserve what has happened to us: it's not like no one ever warned us.

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:50 AM
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25. The rich are way richer.
Mission accomplished.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:13 PM
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28. A superb piece. Beyond superlatives.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:10 PM
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31. If you had to list what DUHbya's done that will have a lasting positive impact,
the list would include...uh...er...

The man is a frat boy from hell.

Newsprism
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 04:02 PM
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32. I think this paragraph might explain a lot about freperville.
"And the citizens sufferred, ironically, a case may be made that the Red State folks bore the brunt of the misery including the military which has been terribly abused and of course the Katrina Victims."

These people have no choice but stand four-square behind Bush. To admit to themselves just what he is, would also mean admitting, that they themselves helped put their own children in harms way, and are entirely complicit in their deaths and maiming.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 06:12 PM
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33. Just remember:
By definition, the average IQ in the US is 100, therefore, half the population, again by definition, has a two digit IQ. Don't project intellectualism and rationale on these folks. Fact of the matter is that lots of people turn against their own families at the drop of a hat. These people will rebel against that which they erceive hurts them. At least enough of them will that they'll either stay home or switch their votes.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 04:25 AM
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36. There is no relationship betwen Intelingence and temperament.
And it takes a reasonably smart person to admit to their own mistakes.

I will agree that may will turn against their own. When the conflict is within the family. Introduce and unrelated third party to such a dispute, and 9 times out of 10 they'll both turn on him together and then go back to their dispute afterwards.

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