Video of Howard Dean speaking in Canada tonight at the Liberal conference

[madfloridian]

http://www.ctv.ca//generic/generated/bplayer/ETalk.html

Very inspiring, great reception for him. Gets a dig in at Fox News right away to applause. Gives credit to all Democrats, making it clear it was a joint effort.

At the link you need to click the picture.

I did not realize how the world was waiting so eagerly for us to win back congress. I've been watching part of it tonight, and they are so very thankful we did.

Well worth watching, about 18 minutes.

[madfloridian]

1. He said Democrats would start repairing our relationships with other countries.

Said we would have to fix a lot of things this president had done...not exact words but close.

[Straight Shooter]

2. Thanks, madfloridian.

Too late for me to stay up and watch tonight. Bookmarked. I've got Howard to look forward to tomorrow. :D

:hi:

[madfloridian]

3. Just saw at a Canadian blog what the Fox News thing was about.

He spoke some French, and it was the joke about being so happy to be there he could scream...but he wouldn't because he learned his lesson. Then he laughed and said something about Fox News to much laughter.

So he must have told the joke about the scream in French and then joked about Fox in English, best I can figure. Halting French may I say.

I just read a bunch of the blogs from Canada, and it seems like most were ready to go after him...but they overall ended up thinkng he had a lot to say and said it nicely.

[Lisa]

8. I bet it's better French than Harper's!

I grew up in Ontario and took French up through to Grade 12 (everyone had to have at least 2 years in HS), and a couple of immersion courses -- even though I'm far from being bilingual, it goes such a long way in Quebec when you open a conversation in French. Howard Dean probably sounds like Jack Layton (who grew up in Montreal) compared to me, but I get really fed up when I hear someone -- usually one of Harper's supporters -- whining about "French rammed down our throats". If even I can learn a few phrases, would it kill them to be willing to recognize our other official language?

I'm a Canadian nationalist and an NDPer, but I figure the Liberals can invite anyone they like to address their convention. If they want to firm up an internationalist image, plus showing solidarity with American moderates (and the Liberals have been slammed, maybe by some of those same bloggers, for being adversarial vs. the US) -- fine. I suppose they could have invited Bill Clinton (and I saw quite a few Liberals and even some Conservatives in my town swooning about him giving a speech here) -- but Dean makes more sense. He's actually from a border state, so he's had more day-to-day experience with the situation ... and if the Liberals are hoping to reinvigorate a grassroots movement and turf the current government, his recent success would at least form a kind of parallel.

[Monk06]

4. Probably the most important speech by an American politician regarding

the relationship between Canadian and the US
in living memory. He joked in French about the
scream with perfect idiomatic expression.

He also made reference to Trudeau and no
Liberal politician including Chretien has
mentioned Pierre's name out loud in a speech
since Trudeau stepped down.

That takes a lot of guts.

[madfloridian]

5. I was reading an article about something "New Democrats" did..

Are they an opposing party or part of the Liberal party?

[Lisa]

9. the NDP's a different party

It formed several decades ago (from the socialist beginnings of the CCF). NDPers tend to agree with the Liberals on some issues (government involvement in social programmes, etc.) -- or at least with the left-leaning Liberals. Even Pierre Trudeau (Liberal PM from way back) once remarked that the NDP was good for the Liberals, because it kept them from straying too far to the right.

The NDP can be an opposition party against the Liberals, but if there's a need for a coalition government, they're the most likely parties to hook up, or at least vote together on many issues (the current Conservatives are more right-wing than the old Progressive Conservatives and that would make for an unstable coalition -- and while the Bloc has generally leftish policies, they are separatists and have fundamental differences from the other parties in the House).

[madfloridian]

10. Thanks...

It's hard to understand the differences. Appreciate the response.

[madfloridian]

6. Pictures...

Chairman of the Democratic National Committee Gov. Howard Dean speaks during the opening night of the Liberal convention in Montreal November 29, 2006. The Liberal Party will elect a new leader later this week. REUTERS/J.P. Moczulski (CANADA)



Gov. Howard Dean (L) leaves the stage after speaking during the opening night of the Liberal convention in Montreal November 29, 2006. The Liberal Party will elect a new leader later this week. REUTERS/Christinne Muschi (CANADA)

[madfloridian]

7. You Tube, Parts 1 and 2 in case you can't access the CTV

Part 1, about 9 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDNY5sX9CL4

Part 2 about 9 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61YPUdO1i5M

Some were having trouble with CTV

[quiet.american]

12. Thanks for the links! I couldn't view at CTV.

What a response he received! Espeically when he gave some of his remarks in French! They loved him for making the effort.

[Astrad]

11. The scary thing is that the man likely to win the liberal leadership

wrote this in 2004.

'To defeat evil, we may have to traffic in evils: indefinite detention of suspects, coercive interrogations, targeted assassinations, even pre-emptive war.'



http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/opeds/2004/ignatieff_less_evils_nytm_050204.htm