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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:24 AM
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Some gave all
My family tells me that I should not focus on politics and the war. They say that it has consumed me and is unhealthy, that god will handle this issue in his own way and that if I leaned on him my burden would be lessoned.

As I was driving in to work this morning the song came on the radio, you know the one about ‘all gave some and some gave all', and it really hit me hard. Actually ‘all gave all’ and our debt to each one is eternal. The song goes on to say that freedom is the reason for the gift the soldiers give us. This is why I refuse to give up the fight for our constitution and the freedoms we have lost. This is why I will not stop fighting to bring the troops home. There is no choice for me.

Working for Peace on Earth one day at a time. Thanks for working with me. Kim
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:26 AM
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1. Some families think everything that happens is God's will and
that what was meant to happen will happen.

They forget that God helps those that help themselves.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:53 PM
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5. The two rules of Leaning on God
1) If something GOOD happens, it is Gods Blessing

2) If something BAD happens it is Gods Will or God works in mysterious ways.

Quite convenient, that!

It just gives the believers a reason to cop out and not take the responsibility for consequences that occur from their own screw-ups.

I still live with the hope that maybe, some day, the human race will grow up and stand on its own two feet and take responsibility for itself.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:33 AM
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2. I think people are ignorant about what's at stake.
They have forgotten or simply don't know about the Constitution & Bill of Rights & what unique documents they are. They are still too comfortable to care that the very foundation of our way of life is being dismantled.

A co-worker called me a nut case cuz of my passion & convictions. Oh well. At least I tried to make a difference & he doesn't do squat.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:49 AM
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3. Not to dis your family but folks who leave everything to God forget
he/she can be a real dick sometimes...or so the bible tells.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:45 PM
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4. Thanks for your comments today.
For some reason I was overwhelmed today. Listening to these pastie white men in suits, tucked safely away in Washington, discuss the fate of others in Iraq was just too much for me. Peace, Kim
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:08 PM
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6. way back when, hubby still republican... before 2004 election
after a rant about something, i felt his disinterest. i turned to him and said this is important stuff. you know why it is so important? it is the kids future. this will be their life. what bigger job do i have as a mom, but the world my kids will have to live.

that did something to him. at least i no longer got the disinterest. he started doing his own information gathering. ended up voting kerry. felt 2004 was stolen and is no longer a republican. today, he gets all excited to tell me a story i havent heard yet.

it is important

over time i have made myself watch so many video created by so many people. death, pain, sorrow, tears. if any of the people supporting this war took the time to watch and sit in the picture, and feel.... bush would have quite a few less supporters to his already small number
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:59 PM
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7. Thanks for this.
I am so happy that your husband was able to grasp the concept. My husband and I have gone through that but after I quite sharing he backed off and is more tolerant now. The worst are my mother and sister who I have quit talking to for the most part. I understand your sadness and sorrow. It is hard to fathom that more people are not sensitive to the death and destruction that has occurred. They have no empathy. I feel so sad for the children and the devastation is so overwhelming. I see all of the materiel things that we still have in this country and it is a mind boggle. How would we fare if our streets were bombed to bits and why can't more Americans put this war into perspective?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 05:00 PM
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8. but then peace..... beyond that
Edited on Wed Dec-06-06 05:11 PM by seabeyond
i look around me and see two beautiful children, a husband that loves me.... peoples grace. i see the beauty too. i do not attach, though am aware of what is happening to my nation, and to iraq and consequently to the world.... we do literally sit in peace in my space, my home. and i feel that having created that is a gift that extends and expands beyond. i do see a higher in all things. in the ugliest that we have, there is always a higher. i know from life experience this to be true. the opportunity for us is ALWAYS there. it is ours to do if we chose. i personally chose. and the more that personally chose will create the energy for it to be. collective conscious. i teach my kids truth is not scary. many people think it will be, that is why they avoid it. but reality,.... truth allows one not to be afraid. to see the opportunities. dont ever be afraid of a truth. in trust literally, you will be free.

to not embrace and experience the beauty, along with the pain is as bad as to ignore the pain.....

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