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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:13 PM
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Is Wonkette Persona non Grata?
Has Wonkette been dropped from the links section of many lefty blogs, or am I just imagining things?

Many of the usual blogs I frequent do not seem to carry a link to that site anymore, even though I am almost positive the only reason I ever visited Wonkette in the first place was due to such a link.

A search of the DU forums shows a couple negative posts, but nothing that would indicate a wholesale shunning.

Anyone know the scoop?

Evil Kumquat
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:14 PM
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1. Because she turned into a media whore the minute she signed on with Time Inc.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:19 PM
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2. Someone else is Wonkette now, I think.
I think she turned it over, sold it, whatever, to some one else, maybe plural.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:31 PM
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4. Yep, Wonkette is now some guy
IIRC. Quality tanked after the original left.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:32 PM
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6. David Lat & Alex Pareene
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Ana Marie Cox, the writer who made Washington politics irresistibly naughty, is giving up her job as a full-time, pajama-clad blogger to become a full-time, pajama-clad author. Cox, who just signed a contract for her second book, will hand off the political Web site to David Lat, the lawyer who secretly penned Underneath Their Robes, an irreverent blog about the judiciary world.

snip>
Lat will be joined by Pareene, a 20-year-old dropout from New York University, who will co-edit the site.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/03/AR2006010301935.html
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:33 PM
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15. Lat is gone
Edited on Wed Dec-06-06 04:38 PM by blogslut
Pareen is the main guy now. Lat is why a lot of blogs dropped Wonkette because he wrote a snarky entry once about gay pride parades. Ana Marie Cox hasn't actually written anything for Wonkette in at least a year. Then again, I could be full of gin.

EDIT: I was full of gin
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:44 PM
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16. I should have known better than to believe the Washington Post's "Reliable Source"
Edited on Wed Dec-06-06 04:48 PM by acmejack
"Reliable Source", apparently not...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/03/AR2006010301935.html

edited for content, as in to include some.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:29 PM
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3. Always was.
She was the Executive Editor at Suck.Com.

"Suck.com was one of the earliest ad-supported content sites on the Internet. It featured daily editorial content on a wide variety of topics, including politics and pop-culture and was targeted at Generation X. Their tagline, and mascots, were "A fish, a barrel, and a smoking gun".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suck.com

As soon as the MSM saw Ana Marie Cox was young and reasonably photogenic it was a marriage made in heaven. I saw a shot of her schmoozing with the bigs with a martini in hand at the 2004 Dem Convention(?) I believe it was.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:32 PM
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5. I still like Wonkette. Where else would you get all the Katherine Harris news?


(Sorry I didn't warn you about that.)
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:34 PM
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7. Where's Spunk & Moxie?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:02 PM
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14. Here they are! And with a possum, too, courtesy of Wonkette!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:37 PM
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8. Let Digby tell you why Ana is persona non grata...
by digby


I did not weigh in yesterday on the all time nobel prize for wankerism, Richard Cohen's masturbatory love letter to himself because well ... I just can't write about all the clubby DC insiders having hissy fits these days or I'd do nothing else. Greg Sargent did a great job of analyzing this battle between the blogosphere and the Smart People Who Are Authorized To Have Opinions. Peter Daou is also covering this brewing battle between the unwashed masses and their betters over at the Daou Report. And Robert Parry has written what I think is a valuable analysis of why the Colbert routine confused the poor little kewl kidz.

I do want to take this opportunity, however, to congratulate our first blogospheric graduate to full fledged membership in the kewl kidz club of America. It warms my heart to see one of our own making it big by trashing lefty bloggers in the pages of Joe Klein's TIME magazine. Our own little Wonkette is all grown up:


The low point in the fake controversy over Stephen Colbert's performance at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner came when Gawker — the cracked mirror by which much of the media views its navel — ran a poll to determine whether, in fact, Colbert's routine was funny. The poll determined that Colbert was an American hero, which may or may not make him funny, but the fact of the poll's existence sure is. Talk about the politicization of comedy. Next we'll get focus groups and image consultants ("Those clown shoes need to be three inches longer if you want to bring in the soccer moms") and Joe Klein will write a book about how no one does improv anymore.



The politicization of comedy. Think about that. If you don't see why that is an amazing statement, especially coming from someone who made her name by being a political humorist (of sorts) then it would probably be best to click over to Jeff Goldstein for some delicious paste and peanut butter sandwiches.

The blogospheric debate — whining, really — about the mainstream media's "silence" on Colbert rumbled into existence with a post by Peter Daou. Almost 18 whole hours after the performance, Daou determined that the shtick — or, as one commenter put it, "a work of staggering genius that could only be pulled off by a man with testicles the size of Alpha Centauri" — was being ignored by the mainstream media in order to "shield Bush from negative publicity." Daou even intuited why they didn’t laugh: because they were shamed "when Colbert put them in their place."



Blindly pulling out quotes from comment sections --- done like a pro. She's getting her MSM chops perfectly honed. It's important to portray the left blogosphere as not only absurd tin-foil hatters, but humorless and dull as well, which isn't easy.

For the record, at the time Daou wrote his piece, there was tons of coverage of the dinner all over the television. The club was howling with delight at the good natured president laughing at himself with that impersonator. (Muy caliente!)

None of them mentioned Colbert. They didn't pan him, they didn't chastize him. They disappeared him. And if it hadn't been for the blogospheric reaction, his entire performance would have gone down the memory hole. Now, I find that interesting, don't you?

I agree completely that the press corps didn't laugh because they were being put in their place --- by Colbert. Two years ago they could hardly contain themselves when the good natured president exposed the entire press corps as idiots with his "jokes" about the missing weapons of mass destruction. Being put in their place by George W. Bush is something they positively love:


The Texas reporter began to ask his question, "You talked about the need to maintain technological"

But Bush, acting like an excited party guest who couldn’t keep a funny comment inside, interrupted the reporter to deliver the punch line. "A little short on hair, but a fine lad. Yeah," Bush said, provoking a new round of laughter at the reporter's expense.

The young reporter paused and acknowledged meekly, "I am losing some hair."

The reporter then soldiered on with a question about whether the administration would "go forward with the V-22" warplane, a question of particular interest to the economy of Fort Worth, Texas.

Bush, however, wasn’t through having fun with the young reporter, who "represents Fort Worth," Bush noted, prompting another round of knowing laughter from the national press corps.



Laughing along while the president humiliates one of their own publicly. Now that's funny.

Cox then says this:

Daou didn't actually make any specific claims as to the comedic value of Colbert's speech, though if he were aiming to write something that would make Saturday night's entertainment funny by comparison, he certainly succeeded.



How droll. And Michael Moore is fat, too. Snap! (Cue the kewl kidz to convulse in manly snorts.) Junior would approve.

Daou was obviously not trying to be funny with his piece. (He didn't mention ass-fucking even once.) But never let that interfere with an opportunity to insult a lefty blogger for being humorless.

And then there is the requisite pulling of the most hysterical comments you can find and using them as an example of how crazy the left wing bloggers really are. It turns out that Ana Marie's husband Chris Lehman didn't find Colbert funny and wrote that Colbert was "shrill and airless" on the Huffington Post garnering a vitriolic response from Colbert fans. I couldn't find the examples Cox used to illustrate this, but no matter. The Colbert lovers were often rude and we know how delicate the DC kewl kid sorority is. (Note to Mr and Mrs Wonkette: don't become sports writers. You want to see rabid fans.....)

She goes on to explain that the unwashed hordes didn't get what they wanted --- an admission from the whole wide world that Colbert was like, totally funny --- so we began to make too much of its "boldness" instead. And that is just naive. We lefty bloggers are nothing if not silly schoolgirls who don't know how the world really works:


Comedy can have a political point but it is not political action, and what Colbert said on the stage of the Washington Hilton — funny or not — means far less than what the ardent posters at ThankYouStephenColbert.org would like it to. While it may have shocked the President to hear someone talk so openly about his misdeeds in the setting of the correspondents dinner — joking about "the most powerful photo-ops in the world" and NSA wiretaps — I somehow doubt that Bush has never heard these criticisms before.

To laud Colbert for saying them seems to me, a card-carrying lefty, to be settling. Colbert's defenders might aim for the same stinging criticisms to be issued not from the Hilton ballroom but from the dais in a Senate Judiciary committee hearing. And I wouldn't really care if they were funny or not.



Whose being naive, Kaye?

I'm actually fairly sure that Bush hasn't heard these things before. The man is not exactly tuned into the zeitgeist. So we'll take what we can get. Bush isn't ever going to appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee --- and the press hasn't exactly pressed him on these matters over the last five years, have they?

Which is the point. It's not about Bush or the Judiciary Committee. Who before has ever stood before the Washington press corps, assumed their sycophantic persona, and hoist them with their own petard? I can't think of anyone.

Ana Marie Cox used to do that online, along with the rest of us uncouth bloggers who rose up in frustration and screamed that the Emperor and his scribbling coutiers were dancing in the streets stark raving naked. (It wasn't a pretty sight, I might add.) Colbert took our message to them, in person, the other night and we celebrate it. That this witty pioneer of the blogosphere, who made her name deflating the pretentions of the insider club of thin-skinned mediawhores no longer identifies with that sentiment is a cautionary tale.



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:42 PM
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9. Corpmedia did to Colbert what they always do - ignore the ACTUAL statements that are
relevant while focusing on the most irrelevant aspect of the event. That people in the audience COULDN'T laugh just proved they knew what Colbert was saying was TRUE.

Just like they did to Gore in 2000, to Dixie Chicks, to Dan Rather, to John Kerry, to John Murtha.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:55 PM
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13. Digby ALWAYS nails it - and he does it with style.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:48 PM
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10. Yes, success is bad in the blogosphere.
In the bizarroworld of the "blogosphere," if you become at all popular, you're immediately worth less than a day old sack of dead rodents. That includes if you become successful and turn over your former enterprise to someone else, as is the case with the Wonkette website: the shame of success then devolves onto the new proprietors. To be a good blogger, you have to be completely unknown and have no readership. Having readers makes your street cred go down in equal measure. If you should actually reach the level of having influence, and being able to meet people in positions of authority, you must be burned at the stake, because you've clearly sold out and are nothing but a "media whore," or worse yet, "mainstream."
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:54 PM
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12. Well---she's dissed liberal bloggers and liberals in general
quite a few times so that she can show her supposed non-partisan ways.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 06:58 PM
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17. I am shocked to discover that there is Democrat-bashing going on in this establishment!
Edited on Wed Dec-06-06 07:03 PM by TheWraith
:rofl:

Have you looked around DU lately? Our side does as much bashing of itself as the Republicans do. If you don't believe me, post a thread talking about pretty much any Democrat in high office, and wait for the haters to start pouring in.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:04 PM
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18. It's Better Than the Blind Obedience of the GOP
You have to admit!

Although I really wish our self-bashing would not degenerate into personal slurs.

I am amazed at how quickly the insults fly toward me when I disagree with anyone in the forums, and I lean so far to the left that when I flush, my turds go down counter-clockwise.

Evil Kumquat
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Ha Ha Ha Oh Wow Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:49 PM
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11. not in my bed shes not.
she can leave crumbs there anytime.
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