Who is Roy Beck /"Immigration by the Numbers" ? Someone I like,

[efhmc]

but whose judgement I do not trust sent a link to Beck's speaking on that title. (She stills likes bush even though she worked for a year doing animal rescue in NO.)

[Ms. Clio]

1. David Duke and vdare.com also like Roy Beck

http://www.davidduke.com/?p=1473

RightWeb says:

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Among the organizations closely associated with Beck and NumbersUSA are Social Contract Press (which publishes and distributes books by Beck, who serves as Washington editor for Social Contract magazine), Center for Immigration Studies, Coalition for the Future American Worker, Evangelicals for Immigration Reform, ProEnglish, and Midwest Coalition for Immigration Reform.

NumbersUSA's staff lobbyist Rosemary Jenks provides regular legislative assistance to the Immigration Reform Caucus chaired by Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO). Although she provides regular legislative counsel to the restrictionist caucus, Jenks is not employed by the caucus but is paid entirely through NumbersUSA. (6) (7)

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While Beck and NumbersUSA are careful not to appeal directly to racist or nativist sentiments, they do support harsh treatment of illegal immigrants, including speedy deportations and sharply reducing access to political asylum and judicial hearings. In Beck's May 15, 2000 statement to the Immigration and Claims Subcommittee of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, Beck said NumbersUSA supports “the apprehension and finger-printing of every possible illegal alien, even if there aren't enough resources to deport most of them. This will not only be disruptive to their communities—especially if people are randomly pulled from the pool to go through the swift deportation system—but it will kick in the 10-year exclusion rule on them, preventing them from benefiting from any legal access in the United States.” (4)

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1528

[efhmc]

2. I thought this might be very right wing stuff flavored with a few "we are

not against" immigrant verbiage and some interesting stats which are then used to scrape away the racist veneer that lies at the core of almost all of these arguments and the people who own them.

[Ms. Clio]

3. I think you nailed it n/t

[efhmc]

4. Thanks for your help. I researched this here and on line and never could

get a clear picture of what this really was but was very suspicious. So I really appreciate your help in this. Thanks again.

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[Ms. Clio]

6. that's a terrifc letter -- very rational and kind

I hope your friend is open to listening to your thoughtful arguments.

[Ms. Clio]

7. you are very welcome

I confess to instant skepticism when I hear about these "immigration experts" these days, and so I just had to do the google.

This guy is, as you noted, quite careful to distance himself publicly from the more extremist elements, but his affiliation with CIS, ProEnglish, etc., support of Tancredo, and harsh positions on deportation, etc., are basically the same as Duke's or VDARE's.